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Poole v King’s Lynn Premiership Grand Final 1st leg 08/10/18


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39 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Your info is out of date. 

Thought I saw some passing last night. Heat 12 Jakobsen. B)

I asked Jakobsen in the press conference if he touched Toft. He said Toft left a huge gap and he took it. This is a final and you go for it. 

I see he avoided your question whether he touched Tofty or not.

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1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I can understand your frustration of coming so far, finishing top, and it seems everthing went against you, but in the clear light of day I don’t believe the ref actually got much wrong except not to exclude Ellis twice more for his constant rolling at the gate. Ellis had been warned before he was excluded. He didn’t have to touch the tapes. Moving was enough for the ref to exclude him. Simple as that. 

As for Palm Toft. He left a whopping great gap entering the third bend. Jakobsen didn’t need a second invite and charged through. Toft tried to close the gap but Jakobsen was already there.  Fair call.  

All this blaming off the ref is of course anti Poole BSF herd mentality. 

Kings Lynn were better than they usually are at Poole. But one team wanted it more. Middlo gets some unjust stick on here but last night shows what a man manager he is by getting the boys fired up. 

Wednesday is going to be tough. But we can do it. 

That one line explains why everyone on here rubbishes you.   You are so blinded with Blue Tints, it is pointless conversing with you...  

What a sad world you live in !!!

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just watched replay certainly a shocking decision to exclude mpt,that crash  and exclusion had big impact on final scoreline me thinks, as did somersets loss of holder cost them a place in the final me thinks.the second half of this season has certainly gone our way,of course harris regarded as the key to our revival would not be at poole had rye sadly not folded,but thats sport and you have to grab your good fortune with both hands

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19 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Thought you was allowed gardening but still had to have some part on the track

Only have to have the rear wheel on track when called to tapes, under green light and racing. For gardening the rider just has to remain in contact with the bike.

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21 minutes ago, tellboy said:

Ht 14 was it where he and his bike was off on the onfield

Depends how the bike got on and off the infield. Technically if he rode the bike on or off the infield it's an offence but not sure anyone wants to see exclusions for that. In the photo Worrall and the bike are not on track so again technically he can't be at the starting gate, however I'd be livid if a ref excluded a rider from my team for that.

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2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I heard they have been Adam Ellis for the KO Cup final meetings against Somerset.

I think it is speculation. Iversen confirmed no bones broken. If there was no concussion and he was released from hospital after x-rays, I can't see him missing 2nd leg.

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2 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I heard they have been Adam Ellis for the KO Cup final meetings against Somerset.

King's Lynn certainly been clever with their fixture planning making sure there's 8 days between the Play-Off home leg and the KO Cup home leg.

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The referee was on balance correct in his decision to exclude Palm Toft. He had given away the racing line to Jakobsen, and attempted to belatedly regain it. However Jakobsen was legitimately where he was, had already passed Palm Toft.

I think there was a strong case for excluding both Ellis and Harris.

The track was never going to produce sensational racing and was prepared for Klindt and this was shown by Lambert having to bust a gut to get any grip.

I doubt that Palm Toft will be able to ride on Wednesday, so maybe Charles Wright can do a job if he is available and has equipment ready.

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I think the "flyers" and unsatisfactory starts are caused by poor start line marshalling.  If the riders" front wheel is within an inch or two of the tapes it is impossible to move without touching the tapes.  At Poole several starts were positioned unevenly. 

For reference have a look at the Start Marshalling at Torun on Saturday, it was impeccable and consistent.

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10 minutes ago, Hamish McRaker said:

The referee was on balance correct in his decision to exclude Palm Toft. He had given away the racing line to Jakobsen, and attempted to belatedly regain it. However Jakobsen was legitimately where he was, had already passed Palm Toft.

I think there was a strong case for excluding both Ellis and Harris.

The track was never going to produce sensational racing and was prepared for Klindt and this was shown by Lambert having to bust a gut to get any grip.

I doubt that Palm Toft will be able to ride on Wednesday, so maybe Charles Wright can do a job if he is available and has equipment ready.

Just watched heat 12. You are right. Jakobsen was through into the lead as Toft had drifted off the racing line. People think this is a non contact sport but that’s not true of course.

Two riders cannot be excluded in the same race for touching the tapes. Ellis was on a warning and didn’t need to touch the tape to go.

edit. Just watched heat 13. Ellis call correct. He definately touched the tapes before Harris. No suprise he was rolling all night.

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