Grachan Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, Steve Shovlar said: There. I said it wouldn’t take long for the usual suspects to start moaning about Poole being over the limit for Wednesday. If we win it will all because we were over the points limit yadda yadda yadda. Kings Lynn are still firm favourites with the bookies. Ha ha. Well I wouldn't have even noticed if you hadn't posted that it was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 28 minutes ago, Shockster said: Can't argue with that, but statement says all parties agree. So, can only assume KL are happy with this. Or maybe Poole gave it the old 'my way or the highway'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 The correct decision has been made, you can’t have guests riding for one side & then switch for the folllowinb match especially in a final. Adam goes very well at KL & Morris is inconsistent there. Would say KL are still favourites IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFCB Wildcat Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Gavan said: You must know by now the Poole rule...................if Poole are missing riders they are weaker................if the opposition are missing riders they are stronger. Lol, yes we know that rule just as well as we know Gavan's rule ….......... If Poole are missing riders they are stronger ............ If the opposition are missing riders they are weaker. Sounds a bit pot & kettle to me. Averages and past form mean nothing in the final, it a case of who turns up on the night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: Rules have been amended. Ellis now guests for Lynn in both meetings and morris for Poole in both meetings Well that's a first - common sense prevailing! Much better solution that both teams utilising r/r in my opinion. Who the heck is bothered by a minor percentage discrepancy in Morris' average....not me. May the best team win and hopefully that will be Lynn, can't put up with Shovels crowing all thro the winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Poole can’t use Morris in the away leg as his average is too high. They know the rules at the start of the season so if they don’t like it don’t take part, as is often trotted out. It’s Poole though so......... just clearing my throat............. Cheating scumbags!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted October 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Didn’t see that coming! Common sense certainly prevails but never thought all three parties could come to an agreement like that. Yes Morris takes Poole over the limit but it’s better than the alternative and the difference is quite small. If they win because he scores two hatfuls it will rankle a bit but in the grand scheme of British speedway it’s the right thing to do as guests are obviously hard to find this time of year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 So which of you said on here to me about the playoffs “ you all know the rules and signed up for them”, now because the hated rip offs have got s problem with rider availability ( in the middle of October, surely not), we change “the rules” so a team go into the final over the allowed average. That team is Poole. Rebels could not sign Harris because apparently he was 0.1 over the limit, fair enough. You really couldn’t make it , just watch Morris score a load now. It’s just made an already ridiculous situation even more barmy. Imo it should have been left as it was , at least the two teams average wise were evenly matched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 29 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: There. I said it wouldn’t take long for the usual suspects to start moaning about Poole being over the limit for Wednesday. If we win it will all because we were over the points limit yadda yadda yadda. Kings Lynn are still firm favourites with the bookies. You are over the limit. You have broken the rules. 'Agreements' and 'Both sides agreeing' are everything that is wrong with the sport. Common sense is utterly irrelevant. RULES should be stuck too. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, BWitcher said: You are over the limit. You have broken the rules. 'Agreements' and 'Both sides agreeing' are everything that is wrong with the sport. Common sense is utterly irrelevant. RULES should be stuck too. Even you must admit sticking to the rules and having Morris and Ellis swapping teams in the final would of been worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, Star Lady said: Well that's a first - common sense prevailing! Much better solution that both teams utilising r/r in my opinion. Who the heck is bothered by a minor percentage discrepancy in Morris' average....not me. May the best team win and hopefully that will be Lynn, can't put up with Shovels crowing all thro the winter Who the heck is bothered by the rules being broken...and yet again by the same team? That would be the multitudes who have turned their back on the sport because of flagrant disregard for rules, gentlemans agreements and in the 'best interests of speedway' rulings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, BWitcher said: You are over the limit. You have broken the rules. 'Agreements' and 'Both sides agreeing' are everything that is wrong with the sport. Common sense is utterly irrelevant. RULES should be stuck too. I’m fairy confident that if this “agreement “ had gone the other way the Poole element would be going berserk now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Even you must admit sticking to the rules and having Morris and Ellis swapping teams in the final would of been worse? Sticking to the rules is never worse. The ruling should have been enforced that the same guest is used for both meetings. If Kings Lynn have used Morris in the first, he can't guest for Poole in the 2nd. Very simple. No rules broken. It would be unfortunate for Poole, but they'd have to find a legal guest. Like every other club has had to do over the years. Edited October 8, 2018 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK246 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Who the heck is bothered by the rules being broken...and yet again by the same team? That would be the multitudes who have turned their back on the sport because of flagrant disregard for rules, gentlemans agreements and in the 'best interests of speedway' rulings. Spot on post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, poole keith said: big advantage to poole now,all the good work done by kl through the season gone in the final hours of the season Absolutely correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Sticking to the rules is never worse. The ruling should have been enforced that the same guest is used for both meetings. If Kings Lynn have used Morris in the first, he can't guest for Poole in the 2nd. Very simple. No rules broken. Kings Lynn didn’t want Morris. They wanted Ellis for both legs. Poole backed down for the good of the sport. Edited October 8, 2018 by Steve Shovlar 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 39 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: There. I said it wouldn’t take long for the usual suspects to start moaning about Poole being over the limit for Wednesday. If we win it will all because we were over the points limit yadda yadda yadda. Kings Lynn are still firm favourites with the bookies. Keep telling yourself that if it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, BWitcher said: Who the heck is bothered by the rules being broken...and yet again by the same team? That would be the multitudes who have turned their back on the sport because of flagrant disregard for rules, gentlemans agreements and in the 'best interests of speedway' rulings. This sport is a total joke now, and they wonder why fans can't be bothered turning up.There are riders avialable but they are probably on a much lower average so break the rules to get who you want.It is only the middle of October but rider don't have to guest if they don't want too.They must be earning enough during the season.The fans are the mugs in this sport ( what is left of them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Cliffeboy said: Keep telling yourself that if it helps. Kings Lynns management are very happy with the deal. They now have a rider who they were worried about for the second leg in their team. The rules should have been in place so that Ellis and Morris were protected for Poole. Lynn could have gone with Howarth or r/r. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Kings Lynn didn’t want Morris. They wanted Ellis for both legs. Poole backed down for the good of the sport. Backed down?? How have Poole backed down in any way shape or form?? Poole have broken rules by having Morris as a guest at Kings Lynn I dont care about gentlemans agreements , the rules were there and they have been changed .........what team benefits???? Poole again Tell a neutral that Nick Morris has an average to high to ride Wednesday but the sport has allowed it to happen................farce If Morris scores more than Ellis at Lynn that leads Poole to the title then that will be an awful way for the league to be won 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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