Tellitasitis Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 8 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: You can 'Fanny' around with the price as much as you want, price has a factor, yes, but the main reason for the lack of attendance is the product itself. When die hard's are leaving in their droves, you cannot continue to say the fans are wrong, time to listen to their opinions. It’s plainly obvious to me the racing is dire but they seem to be oblivious to that fact or is their heads in the sand pretending it isn’t If the racing doesn’t improve then the future is bleak Cant we have the track prepared like 2017 where the racing was good nearly every week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 11:02 AM, Catch Me If You Can said: Ah yes got you. I got feeling that same rider still races in Swedish set up? Indeed he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Tellitasitis said: It’s plainly obvious to me the racing is dire but they seem to be oblivious to that fact or is their heads in the sand pretending it isn’t If the racing doesn’t improve then the future is bleak Cant we have the track prepared like 2017 where the racing was good nearly every week? I think in 2017 the then team manager and No1 had a big say in how the track was prepared. You would like to think something along the same lines would be happening now but I am not sure it is. Track prep seems so inconsistent IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 11 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: You can 'Fanny' around with the price as much as you want, price has a factor, yes, but the main reason for the lack of attendance is the product itself. When die hard's are leaving in their droves, you cannot continue to say the fans are wrong, time to listen to their opinions. The original argument was about the cost of getting in, nobody ever mentioned the racing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Tellitasitis said: It’s plainly obvious to me the racing is dire but they seem to be oblivious to that fact or is their heads in the sand pretending it isn’t If the racing doesn’t improve then the future is bleak Cant we have the track prepared like 2017 where the racing was good nearly every week? Funny because back in 2017 a lot of Berwick fans on here were saying that they were staying away because the team were poor and getting beat and the quality of racing didn't appease them. So what has changed in the track preparation, because it's the same curator? And second, what do you think can be done to improve racing? I've got no experience in preparing a track, so I don't have the answer and if they were honest, very few posters on here have. Some of the responses should be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted July 10, 2019 Report Share Posted July 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, topsoil said: The original argument was about the cost of getting in, nobody ever mentioned the racing. To watch what probably at that time of the season would be meaningless meetings as IMO Berwick, Edinburgh, Scunthorpe won't be involved with the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 14 hours ago, topsoil said: Funny because back in 2017 a lot of Berwick fans on here were saying that they were staying away because the team were poor and getting beat and the quality of racing didn't appease them. So what has changed in the track preparation, because it's the same curator? And second, what do you think can be done to improve racing? I've got no experience in preparing a track, so I don't have the answer and if they were honest, very few posters on here have. Some of the responses should be interesting. The big difference is Nick Morris, the 1st half of the season the track was poor, when Nick Morris joined massive improvement. After Nick departed, track went back to being poor again in 2018. Sad thing is it shows it can be done with guidance, perhaps the guidance is not there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 20 hours ago, penchev said: will you be doing an autograph session? if you can write that is or just draw a stick man pic? 'X' marks the spot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 17 hours ago, Tellitasitis said: It’s plainly obvious to me the racing is dire but they seem to be oblivious to that fact or is their heads in the sand pretending it isn’t If the racing doesn’t improve then the future is bleak Cant we have the track prepared like 2017 where the racing was good nearly every week? As I said it was good after Nick Morris joined team, prior to that it was poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellitasitis Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 2 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: As I said it was good after Nick Morris joined team, prior to that it was poor It’s frustrating as obviously the potential for a decent race track is there A work college went to the Leicester meeting (he’d been tempted by the ten pound offer against Edinburgh so used his rain off ticket) and told me it wasn’t worth ten pound to watch four riders following each other and he found it boring There needs to be a drastic improvement in entertainment because new people find it boring and even the die hard’s are beginning to drift away for the same reason then we’re doomed !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tellitasitis said: It’s frustrating as obviously the potential for a decent race track is there A work college went to the Leicester meeting (he’d been tempted by the ten pound offer against Edinburgh so used his rain off ticket) and told me it wasn’t worth ten pound to watch four riders following each other and he found it boring There needs to be a drastic improvement in entertainment because new people find it boring and even the die hard’s are beginning to drift away for the same reason then we’re doomed !! To be fair, if you are not a 'biker' this can be a common occurrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tsunami said: To be fair, if you are not a 'biker' this can be a common occurrence. I am a biker but not many bikers like speedway, I don't know many speedway riders that are bikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: As I said it was good after Nick Morris joined team, prior to that it was poor It’s 2019 Nick Morris doesn’t ride for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 wish he did 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellitasitis Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 18 minutes ago, penchev said: It’s 2019 Nick Morris doesn’t ride for us I think he means that Nick Morris had an input in track preparation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 Any news on NBJ and his recuperation from his appendix operation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 51 minutes ago, bjcol said: wish he did Could do with the extra rides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 32 minutes ago, DSC67 said: Any news on NBJ and his recuperation from his appendix operation ? If you read Kevin’s blog ,he is not sure whether he had an Op.Thats my reading of it.Whether he is riding or not we will have to wait and see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topsoil Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 23 hours ago, Bandit59 said: To watch what probably at that time of the season would be meaningless meetings as IMO Berwick, Edinburgh, Scunthorpe won't be involved with the playoffs. So when do you suggest they fit the fixtures in, given there is only one spare Saturday before September? Run a double header (financial nightmare and the big risk of the second match only going ten heats) or a midweek match (guaranteed lower crowd)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Share Posted July 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, topsoil said: So when do you suggest they fit the fixtures in, given there is only one spare Saturday before September? Run a double header (financial nightmare and the big risk of the second match only going ten heats) or a midweek match (guaranteed lower crowd)? Does not matter if they keep watching weather forecasts we might still be trying to fit meetings in October Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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