crescent girl Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) I think that question -- based, as you say on helping speedway survive -- is being asked the wrong way. Yes, a fair admission price for a night of Championship speedway might be around £16/17, as at the majority of CL tracks. But to ask everyone to pay £20 for the same meeting to help a speedway survive is quite different. The concept of a Trust, such as they have at Hearts, etc, is that concerned supporters who might feel they can afford it do pay more, in the way of a weekly/monthly subscription to the Trust, not at the turnstile. Edited December 4, 2018 by crescent girl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Speedway is already vastly overpriced in this country. Any promotions thinking of raising prices for next season given its going to be a weaker product again really need to have a look at themselves imo. 15 quid for some of the rubbish that gets served up in the UK is already robbery. Makes me wonder just how badly certain clubs are doing money wise. If what they say in the press every year is to be believed they are potless, but if that were really the case, why do they keep running year after year? Certainly isn't out of loyalty to fans imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 £20 per meeting is ok if every body pays that and no freebies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, crescent girl said: I think that question -- based, as you say on helping speedway survive -- is being asked the wrong way. Yes, a fair admission price for a night of Championship speedway might be around £16/17, as at the majority of CL tracks. But to ask everyone to pay £20 for the same meeting to help a speedway survive is quite different. The concept of a Trust, such as they have at Hearts, etc, is that concerned supporters who might feel they can afford it do pay more, in the way of a weekly/monthly subscription to the Trust, not at the turnstile. I always have a business head on, wouldn't it be nice if everyone who purchased a watch from my shop, decided to give me a donation because they think I need to boost my profit. Not a great lover of trusts unless they have a say on the decisions being made. The profit is made at the gate and not by charitable donations. Provide good entertainment the product will become e viable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 49 minutes ago, crescent girl said: I think that question -- based, as you say on helping speedway survive -- is being asked the wrong way. Yes, a fair admission price for a night of Championship speedway might be around £16/17, as at the majority of CL tracks. But to ask everyone to pay £20 for the same meeting to help a speedway survive is quite different. The concept of a Trust, such as they have at Hearts, etc, is that concerned supporters who might feel they can afford it do pay more, in the way of a weekly/monthly subscription to the Trust, not at the turnstile. This is the trouble with the sport nowadays,they should not have to rely on extra donations from fans to keep afloat.The AGM for me done nothing to help reduce costs in the sport or the way it is run.Promotions are still single minded paying out more money than income.It going to come to sticky end IMO.Value for money is debatable nowadays.Riders still seem to have the upper hand as Full Time Professionals it can’t go on forever at this level in the sport.Berwick admission prices last season were Acceptable but some other clubs were not IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 as longas concessions and unemployed get in cheaperlollol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: Question ? Would Berwick fans pay £20 admission for speedway at Berwick No, IMO £15 is more than enough to pay to watch speedway. We can argue about the value for money that gets you but £15 is about right and £20 to much, though rather famously there is one of us who would be more than willing to pay £20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, screm said: No, IMO £15 is more than enough to pay to watch speedway. We can argue about the value for money that gets you but £15 is about right and £20 to much, though rather famously there is one of us who would be more than willing to pay £20. He is too busy tuning the guitar the last couple of seasons to worry about admission costs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, crescent girl said: I think that question -- based, as you say on helping speedway survive -- is being asked the wrong way. Yes, a fair admission price for a night of Championship speedway might be around £16/17, as at the majority of CL tracks. But to ask everyone to pay £20 for the same meeting to help a speedway survive is quite different. The concept of a Trust, such as they have at Hearts, etc, is that concerned supporters who might feel they can afford it do pay more, in the way of a weekly/monthly subscription to the Trust, not at the turnstile. Don't see why admission prices should be increased with the lower points limit reduced it is diluting the sport even more maybe will see reduced prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: Question ? Would Berwick fans pay £20 admission for speedway at Berwick With the added costs of traveling to Berwick and back I'd find £20 a bit to much to watch lower league speedway, if Berwick Rangers started to charge SPL prices would their fans be happy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Bandit59 said: Don't see why admission prices should be increased with the lower points limit reduced it is diluting the sport even more maybe will see reduced prices I’m afraid that won’t happen IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alang Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: Question ? Would Berwick fans pay £20 admission for speedway at Berwick £15 admission,£2.50 for programme and £2 for 50/50 draw equals £19.50 total this year.Happy for £20 if includes all of these next year!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, alang said: £15 admission,£2.50 for programme and £2 for 50/50 draw equals £19.50 total this year.Happy for £20 if includes all of these next year!! And £3-50 for a cheeseburger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 10 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: Question ? Would Berwick fans pay £20 admission for speedway at Berwick Yes is the answer. kid being free anywhere else kids have to pay , so therefore I’m currently saving money so if kids stay free and we adults ha e to pay a wee bit extra that’s fine by me further more , what else can you get for £15 in Berwick on a Saturday night ? Takeaway meal probably costs the same and I guess the 10 minutes eating it is entertainment a night out to the pub hmm £30 - £50 , are the Berwick pubs entertainment? Go out for a meal , probably about £50 , Watch Berwick Rangers , do not know what that cost , would that be entertainment? go and watch a premier league match mega bucks for that day out The town is in dire straits, we so lucky to have speedway, and it brings a lot of extra folks into the town when the likes of Glasgow , Edinburgh , Workington, Sheffield and Newcastle are here , think fans should either suck it up if there is a price increase or simply don’t go 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Most people that go to the speedway spend more than £ 15 raffle tickets,programme,burger,chips not including travel costs to and from Berwick for myself that's another £15 not exactly a cheap hour and half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, Bandit59 said: Most people that go to the speedway spend more than £ 15 raffle tickets,programme,burger,chips not including travel costs to and from Berwick for myself that's another £15 not exactly a cheap hour and half. Optional costs , of course nothing you can do about the travelling cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Is charging your existing customers more, easier than trying to get new/returning customers ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 25 minutes ago, penchev said: Optional costs , of course nothing you can do about the travelling cost Unfortunately with travelling costs getting more expensive it could just have a bearing ,with Berwick in particular have a lot of fans from outlying district.Still there is nothing been said regarding admission prices this season,simply a person asking question.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, penchev said: Yes is the answer. kid being free anywhere else kids have to pay , so therefore I’m currently saving money so if kids stay free and we adults ha e to pay a wee bit extra that’s fine by me further more , what else can you get for £15 in Berwick on a Saturday night ? Takeaway meal probably costs the same and I guess the 10 minutes eating it is entertainment a night out to the pub hmm £30 - £50 , are the Berwick pubs entertainment? Go out for a meal , probably about £50 , Watch Berwick Rangers , do not know what that cost , would that be entertainment? go and watch a premier league match mega bucks for that day out The town is in dire straits, we so lucky to have speedway, and it brings a lot of extra folks into the town when the likes of Glasgow , Edinburgh , Workington, Sheffield and Newcastle are here , think fans should either suck it up if there is a price increase or simply don’t go Unfortunately I think if it comes to that then the decision for alot of people would just be to not go frankly, not a situation a club would want surely. The model for speedway widely in this country is terrible. Its a semi pro sport here but has riders expecting the world that puts pressure on clubs but more often than not its the fans that lose out with whats provided. Once again the powers that be have failed to address any of the many issues and no doubt by the end of the 2019 season we will see even more clubs possibly going to the wall. Not actually sure what or if there is a solution but i certainly dont think raising prices for a further diluted product is the answer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, emilali said: Unfortunately I think if it comes to that then the decision for alot of people would just be to not go frankly, not a situation a club would want surely. The model for speedway widely in this country is terrible. Its a semi pro sport here but has riders expecting the world that puts pressure on clubs but more often than not its the fans that lose out with whats provided. Once again the powers that be have failed to address any of the many issues and no doubt by the end of the 2019 season we will see even more clubs possibly going to the wall. Not actually sure what or if there is a solution but i certainly dont think raising prices for a further diluted product is the answer. I don’t think there really is an answer to the problems the sport has 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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