Catch Me If You Can Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, DSC67 said: The football club don't own the stadium , the council own it , the fans trust own the lease . I can't see the pitch dimensions changing for the Lowland League 13 hours ago, Fromafar said: If they drop out the league,they may let us alter the track shape if the drop to senior leagues. Nothing will change as I see it. The SPFL Lowland League is like National League in England. From last few years clubs are in Betfred Cup sections and that Irn Bru Cup from Lowland and Highland even Welsh and Irish leagues. As it seems Berwick will still be playing even if Lowland and will be in Scottish Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 8:29 PM, Cloggy said: Berwick Speedway have an opportunity next Saturday. Berwick Rangers will more than likely get a big crowd again on the 18th, as shown by the game against Albion, people cant stop staring at car crashes. Surely this is a great chance to promote rather than being "Jealous, green eyed and annoyed", consult with John Bell or Walla Parkin from the supporters club or any other directors who haven't resigned by then, get a bike and a flat screen monitor showing a highlight reel of some races and promote the meeting later on in the evening, hand out vouchers for reduced entry to the Sheffield meeting. If the BRFC board continue to be short sighted and don't comply, do it in the car park by the turnstiles?! There was always chance of extra time and pens too but maybe not now! If I hear correct that huge motor cycle rally thingy is in car park too. Took lot room up last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 Yes Motor Cycle Rally next week as well as footie. Not sure what crowd footie will get although there seems to be a few buses coming down from Cove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellitasitis Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 On 5/8/2019 at 10:07 PM, Fromafar said: Crowds are not living up to expectations according to blog on Website. I wonder what numbers they expected and what numbers they need to break even/make a profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 23 hours ago, DSC67 said: The football club don't own the stadium , the council own it , the fans trust own the lease . I can't see the pitch dimensions changing for the Lowland League The Stadiums Freeholder is Northumberland County Council, the lease however is Berwick Rangers Supporters Club, who have a 99 year rolling lease 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit59 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Take it Jye will be back for Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, balderdash&piffle said: The Stadiums Freeholder is Northumberland County Council, the lease however is Berwick Rangers Supporters Club, who have a 99 year rolling lease That rules out any changes then.It was just a thought. The entertainment factor is diminishing with modern speedway bikes ,but powers at be seem reluctant to address the problem.There again that is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 On 5/8/2019 at 10:07 PM, Fromafar said: Crowds are not living up to expectations according to blog on Website. Do not understand, how the cost can remain so high? for one the admission has gone up and also the price of a programme, the catering van has disappeared and the catering is all done in house, this surely has to increase profit? Is it purely down to numbers through the gate? We have a great team and the boys are doing the business on track, but yet it seems we have a lack of support? Has the recent unusual cold weather having a say in matters? Is the lack of meetings an issue? Do people have other things to do on a Saturday evening? Will we ever know what the issue really is? Keep the faith folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, penchev said: Do not understand, how the cost can remain so high? for one the admission has gone up and also the price of a programme, the catering van has disappeared and the catering is all done in house, this surely has to increase profit? Is it purely down to numbers through the gate? We have a great team and the boys are doing the business on track, but yet it seems we have a lack of support? Has the recent unusual cold weather having a say in matters? Is the lack of meetings an issue? Do people have other things to do on a Saturday evening? Will we ever know what the issue really is? Keep the faith folks. Think it was a mistake increasing Admission Prices ,lack of regular Sat meetings does not help IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: Think it was a mistake increasing Admission Prices ,lack of regular Sat meetings does not help IMO. could have told you that ages a go people have not got cash to waste on sport and other things 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, penchev said: Do not understand, how the cost can remain so high? for one the admission has gone up and also the price of a programme, the catering van has disappeared and the catering is all done in house, this surely has to increase profit? Is it purely down to numbers through the gate? We have a great team and the boys are doing the business on track, but yet it seems we have a lack of support? Has the recent unusual cold weather having a say in matters? Is the lack of meetings an issue? Do people have other things to do on a Saturday evening? Will we ever know what the issue really is? Keep the faith folks. It isn't price for me, I do understand when you are in a low paid economy like Berwick and the Borders, it can be a financial strain. I havn't been to speedway at all this season, mainly because I have had quite a serious cough since January, I didn't want to aggravate it on a cold damp night. If it wasn't for Leon, I could take speedway or leave it, the entertainment value has almost disappeared, Berwicks track has become predictable, when you fill your programme in on the 1st lap 2nd bend, something is seriously wrong. I now understand when you have other interest how quickly you change your priorities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupidstunt Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 has speedway just had its day, I hear Leicester are struggling with crowds as well and they are top of the league, is it Saturday nights?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cupidstunt said: has speedway just had its day, I hear Leicester are struggling with crowds as well and they are top of the league, is it Saturday nights?? Apart from at International level you are probably correct, very little difference between Premiership and Championship. Is there a case for Championship becoming Semi Professional , the rider gets a proper job to keep him and rides speedway as a hobby, certainly not the crowds to support speedway at this level for it to be a full time job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzac Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Cupidstunt said: has speedway just had its day, I hear Leicester are struggling with crowds as well and they are top of the league, is it Saturday nights?? To a degree, but Eastbourne have gone into this season with proper promotion through the community, local business , schools, decent website and have embraced social media,and they run Saturday nights or Sunday. Gates are far better than the tail end of when we were in the Elite league. Perhaps if other club owners/promoters studied their plan, and implemented similar schemes perhaps the doom and gloom would not be so prevalent. Suppose if a promoter doesn't promote, the club is doomed to failure. Like him or loath him, Poole's sucess over the last 20 odd years has largely been down to Matt Ford's promoting. Edited May 13, 2019 by gazzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Cupidstunt said: has speedway just had its day, I hear Leicester are struggling with crowds as well and they are top of the league, is it Saturday nights?? It’s struggling big time for various reasons which have been discussed endlessly on forums.unfortunately the answer is not if you don’t support it you will lose it (although probably true) which seems the only answer Promoters can come up with.As a professional full time sport in UK it had its day IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, balderdash&piffle said: Apart from at International level you are probably correct, very little difference between Premiership and Championship. Is there a case for Championship becoming Semi Professional , the rider gets a proper job to keep him and rides speedway as a hobby, certainly not the crowds to support speedway at this level for it to be a full time job will that mean that the fully professional riders will be riding in a semi professional lower league . that cant be allowed to happen Shirley . also the semi pro riders will be up against full professional riders , err , ALMOST LIKE NOW , in fact it is the same . boot out the big guys and let the championship become a proper lower league . but there are always the odd one ore two wanting to have a show pony in their side . speedway is ruined now and there is no way back . make championship number ones a premiership reserve , just like ye olde days .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, penchev said: Do not understand, how the cost can remain so high? for one the admission has gone up and also the price of a programme, the catering van has disappeared and the catering is all done in house, this surely has to increase profit? Is it purely down to numbers through the gate? We have a great team and the boys are doing the business on track, but yet it seems we have a lack of support? Has the recent unusual cold weather having a say in matters? Is the lack of meetings an issue? Do people have other things to do on a Saturday evening? Will we ever know what the issue really is? Keep the faith folks. Probably all of the above, admission has been £15 for a couple of seasons now and IMO £15 is more than enough for Championship speedway, certainly the stop start nature to our fixtures have lead to some finding other things to do each Saturday night. Its definitely worrying that the club are sending out warnings on crowd levels, especially when you consider we have raced local tracks so far, the team is doing reasonably well and there was a decent take up on season tickets which gave the money up front. we were told before the season started that the club had cut their cloth accordingly and that riders had taken pay cuts to race in the team, to find we could be in for more financial difficulties is a worry, lets hope crowds improve very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 I'd guess the admission prices were set a a level which the club believed they needed to break even Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, DSC67 said: I'd guess the admission prices were set a a level which the club believed they needed to break even well that's no worked has it still to dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Main reason I take or leave home meetings is the racing, not the price, if I have any other potential plans they take priority over the speedway, although I’d never be sat in the house if it was on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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