TotallyHonestJohn Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 12 hours ago, stevehone said: apparently they still have to attend or they will be fined Not quite (whats this fixation with fining all the time) In very (very) basic terms the promoters can attend on the Monday (if they want) along with everyone else and hear what BSPA monies they will receive from the shared events, TV revenues etc. (if any) and learn what the outline agenda is with the proposals for next year. They are then asked at the end of the Monday if they intend to run next year, if "No" they go home on the Monday and take no further part in the AGM. If "Yes" they stay until the Wednesday and input into the meeting and debate the proposals, they are then asked again on the Wednesday if they are still prepared to run under the terms that come out of the AGM proposals. If "Yes" well "Bob's ya Uncle" and away you go, if "No" unfortunately its a case of Sell, Ice the Licence or shut down, or there could be a fourth option of a fans collective taking on the franchise if the owners are up for that and prepared to loan whatever assets they hold to the franchise. (But it ain't cheap and there has to be a solid business plan in place) however if no one was to attend from the promotion they would proxy their vote or just advise that they are not running. Many promotions didn't attend last years AGM yet weren't fined. Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Are they planning on continuing until a buyer comes in or are the Courtney’s going to be the ones to shut down Berwick Speedway after 50 years? I can’t see them doing the latter but I can’t see someone coming forward and buying the club in the next couple of weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 39 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Are they planning on continuing until a buyer comes in or are the Courtney’s going to be the ones to shut down Berwick Speedway after 50 years? I can’t see them doing the latter but I can’t see someone coming forward and buying the club in the next couple of weeks? My interpretation of their statement is that they are pulling out now.( that could be wrong though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: My interpretation of their statement is that they are pulling out now.( that could be wrong though). What they said was (copied and pasted off Facebook/Website): “Of course there is a lot of hard work involved for any new owners and myself (Scott) ,Jamie and the ever loyal Dennis McCleary will be only too happy to spend the winter months helping any new owners settle in and acclimatise to their surroundings." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, StevePark said: What they said was (copied and pasted off Facebook/Website): “Of course there is a lot of hard work involved for any new owners and myself (Scott) ,Jamie and the ever loyal Dennis McCleary will be only too happy to spend the winter months helping any new owners settle in and acclimatise to their surroundings." Well that's it settled then Balderdash and ConcessionsCol to take over Berwick speedway as Col needs a job, and then Col won't have to worry about unemployed concessions, he can give himself free entry anyway And all season ticket holders will get a free Bandits watch when they sign up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balderdash&piffle Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, jrs said: Well that's it settled then Balderdash and ConcessionsCol to take over Berwick speedway as Col needs a job, and then Col won't have to worry about unemployed concessions, he can give himself free entry anyway And all season ticket holders will get a free Bandits watch when they sign up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, StevePark said: What they said was (copied and pasted off Facebook/Website): “Of course there is a lot of hard work involved for any new owners and myself (Scott) ,Jamie and the ever loyal Dennis McCleary will be only too happy to spend the winter months helping any new owners settle in and acclimatise to their surroundings." If there is not any buyers though ,doesn't sound like they will stay on . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concessionscol Posted November 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, balderdash&piffle said: dream on lollol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 59 minutes ago, Fromafar said: If there is not any buyers though ,doesn't sound like they will stay on . Which is what I was meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, allthegearbutnaeidea said: Which is what I was meaning. That's my interpretation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 6 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Not quite (whats this fixation with fining all the time) In very (very) basic terms the promoters can attend on the Monday (if they want) along with everyone else and hear what BSPA monies they will receive from the shared events, TV revenues etc. (if any) and learn what the outline agenda is with the proposals for next year. They are then asked at the end of the Monday if they intend to run next year, if "No" they go home on the Monday and take no further part in the AGM. If "Yes" they stay until the Wednesday and input into the meeting and debate the proposals, they are then asked again on the Wednesday if they are still prepared to run under the terms that come out of the AGM proposals. If "Yes" well "Bob's ya Uncle" and away you go, if "No" unfortunately its a case of Sell, Ice the Licence or shut down, or there could be a fourth option of a fans collective taking on the franchise if the owners are up for that and prepared to loan whatever assets they hold to the franchise. (But it ain't cheap and there has to be a solid business plan in place) however if no one was to attend from the promotion they would proxy their vote or just advise that they are not running. Many promotions didn't attend last years AGM yet weren't fined. Regards THJ Must have changed recently John as it was always enforced, hence arrangements like flying in Carslake in for Perrin in the early 00's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Must have changed recently John as it was always enforced, hence arrangements like flying in Carslake in for Perrin in the early 00's. Newcastle Worky and two or three others didn't attend the AGM in Tenerife last year and no one was squealing about fines then Dave, They may be deferred with a warning I am not sure but its only worth fining someone who can afford to pay it at the end of the day. Who in Speedway has got any money? Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Newcastle Worky and two or three others didn't attend the AGM in Tenerife last year and no one was squealing about fines then Dave, They may be deferred with a warning I am not sure but its only worth fining someone who can afford to pay it at the end of the day. Who in Speedway has got any money? Regards THJ The likes of Chapman and Ford must have a few bob, but the majority live hand to mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Would they not try run a nl team team to keep the track running ,the likes of Eastbourne and Birmingham seem to have put decent competitive teams together and have kept a decent crowd level and not lost any money from what I hear they would have a decent team with some local riders in Leon and kerion plus the likes of mitch Davy Luke Ruddick Ryan MacDonald Kev Whelan blair Smith that would give locals something to cheer about and with less matches could have a weekend of now and again and with having the training track on their doorstep could bring riders up from there, also there wage bill would be easy quarter less than they pay out now and with local riders the local press might cover it more 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, mac101 said: Would they not try run a nl team team to keep the track running ,the likes of Eastbourne and Birmingham seem to have put decent competitive teams together and have kept a decent crowd level and not lost any money from what I hear they would have a decent team with some local riders in Leon and kerion plus the likes of mitch Davy Luke Ruddick Ryan MacDonald Kev Whelan blair Smith that would give locals something to cheer about and with less matches could have a weekend of now and again and with having the training track on their doorstep could bring riders up from there, also there wage bill would be easy quarter less than they pay out now and with local riders the local press might cover it more That’s a great shout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normski Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 Good shout but Berwick's best crowds are against Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Redcar, Workington. What kind of crowds would they get against Buxton, Isle of Wight, etc. Dropping into the NL they would still have to pay the same rent for the stadium. As regards weekends off now and again, one of the biggest complaints this season has been the lack of meetings and gaps in the fixture list. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 21 hours ago, Normski said: Good shout but Berwick's best crowds are against Glasgow, Edinburgh, Newcastle, Redcar, Workington. What kind of crowds would they get against Buxton, Isle of Wight, etc. Dropping into the NL they would still have to pay the same rent for the stadium. As regards weekends off now and again, one of the biggest complaints this season has been the lack of meetings and gaps in the fixture list. Pretty sure you will still get them coming down when they have free weekends they all love a Berwick night out another rider Ryan Blacklock whose thinking of chucking his leg over a bike again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 As things stand right now NL racing at Berwick is just about a non starter, maybe if the likes of Newcastle, Edinburgh for example came down to it would be a possibility but right now our most local track would be Buxton or Belle Vue so Berwick would be even more reliant on their own fan base than ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 Have to agree, I would personally go and watch a competitive NL team with local riders but we would need other local teams to follow suit and anyways, we dont have an owner to do this with... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted November 7, 2018 Report Share Posted November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, screm said: As things stand right now NL racing at Berwick is just about a non starter, maybe if the likes of Newcastle, Edinburgh for example came down to it would be a possibility but right now our most local track would be Buxton or Belle Vue so Berwick would be even more reliant on their own fan base than ever. As things stand right now there will be no speedway at berwick next year , so just think about that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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