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King's Lynn v Belle Vue; Play-Off. semi final 2nd leg


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13 minutes ago, John Scrutton said:

Barch and Holder were 100% the reason for their sacking 

 I cant help thinking this was all Holder's doing..    Having ridden at Poole a few days earlier scoring a Max, not only did he want to show Matt Ford what he was missing,   but also wanted to help them out as well.      Yeah, the track was rubbish that day,  but all the other riders stuck to their task and rode it, so it wasn't that bad...    Holder made out it was unsafe but nobody got injured.     Batch, having won his first race  and was team riding a 5-1 in his second, when he slid off,    no doubt supporting Holder's  ideas.   For both of them to walk away was unforgivable and they deserved all the problems that followed..       I'm still of the impression, had we been riding against any other team then Poole, it wouldn't have happened..... 

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7 hours ago, mark.1 said:

King's Lynn 8/15 Poole 9/4 Somerset 5/1 and Belle Vue 50/1 from Bet365

Ok right, 7/4 would have been a good bet then..:rolleyes:

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14 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Kings Lynn are massive favourites with the bookies to win the title as can be seen. Can they cope with all that pressure?

Maybe, maybe not but one thing for certain is I fully expect something to go wrong for us. Winning the top league has always been a bit of a bogey for this club. There is some kind of voodoo over us.

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27 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Kings Lynn are massive favourites with the bookies to win the title as can be seen. Can they cope with all that pressure?

They are huge favourites because of he fact they are pretty much in the final but then again I wouldn’t expect you to know how odds work.

Lets say in a two legged football match semi final that match one between Chelsea v Liverpool ends 0-3 to Liverpool (similar to Lynn at Belle Vue) and the other match between Man Utd at home to Man City ends 1-1 ( similar to Somerset v Poole)

Quite clearly Liverpool would be hot favourites to win the final (like Lynn) as they are pretty much there where as Man City still have a bit of work to do (like Poole)

Thats how odds are worked out. 

Trust me if it’s Lynn v Poole they will be similar in odds for the final it’s just at the moment one team is a near certainty to be in the final the other is likely to but not certain 

Or do you think it will be 8/15 and 9/4 in the final lol 

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Considering our last two results away st Poole and Somerset I’m surprised at our odds. However I don’t expect anything the bookies say to affect our riders, but being in the final if we get there might. Not many of our riders have been there before.

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23 minutes ago, Bagpuss said:

Considering our last two results away st Poole and Somerset I’m surprised at our odds. However I don’t expect anything the bookies say to affect our riders, but being in the final if we get there might. Not many of our riders have been there before.

Have faith,    I believe we are more than capable of doing the business,  whoever we meet in the final....     I'm sure Dale Allitt ,      sorry Dale Ali.   will get the riders dialled in and ride like their lives depend on it....    This year   is OUR time...….:t:

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1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Kings Lynn are massive favourites with the bookies to win the title as can be seen. Can they cope with all that pressure?

Probably because they have one very big foot in the final. Can they cope, I bloody hope so, but who knows.

I wouldn't put my money on them at those odds.... I see Poole getting past the Rebels in the 2nd leg and it will be a Lynn v Poole final. I'm not bigging Poole up for a reaction either, remember I was offering a £100 bet on Poole making the play offs when they were bottom ;)

As much as I hate to say it,  Over 2 legs I would make Poole favourites. I think you would if you were honest.

I will be happy to take all the flack I might get if i'm wrong :blink:

 

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1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

Probably because they have one very big foot in the final. Can they cope, I bloody hope so, but who knows.

I wouldn't put my money on them at those odds.... I see Poole getting past the Rebels in the 2nd leg and it will be a Lynn v Poole final. I'm not bigging Poole up for a reaction either, remember I was offering a £100 bet on Poole making the play offs when they were bottom ;)

As much as I hate to say it,  Over 2 legs I would make Poole favourites. I think you would if you were honest.

I will be happy to take all the flack I might get if i'm wrong :blink:

 

Correct they are pretty much guaranteed to be in the final hence the short odds. 

Irrelevant of who their opponents are those odds will drift as soon as both teams are known.

Bookmakers work to a percentage overound so at the moment 3 teams (barring an amazing Belle Vue comeback) can win the league.

One is those is in the final pretty much so they are always going to be much shorter than the other 2.

Its basic odds compiling.

If Poole would have won by 8.....and Belle Vue v Lynn was closer say a 6 point Belle Vue win , then Poole would be long odds on favourites.

If it’s Kings Lynn v Poole final then it will be Kings Lynn as slight favourites but only just 

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3 minutes ago, Gavan said:

Correct they are pretty much guaranteed to be in the final hence the short odds. 

Irrelevant of who their opponents are those odds will drift as soon as both teams are known.

Bookmakers work to a percentage overound so at the moment 3 teams (barring an amazing Belle Vue comeback) can win the league.

One is those is in the final pretty much so they are always going to be much shorter than the other 2.

Its basic odds compiling.

If Poole would have won by 8.....and Belle Vue v Lynn was closer say a 6 point Belle Vue win , then Poole would be long odds on favourites.

If it’s Kings Lynn v Poole final then it will be Kings Lynn as slight favourites but only just 

Yep. But not in my book ;)

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12 hours ago, g13webb said:

Have faith,    I believe we are more than capable of doing the business,  whoever we meet in the final....     I'm sure Dale Allitt ,      sorry Dale Ali.   will get the riders dialled in and ride like their lives depend on it....    This year   is OUR time...….:t:

I SO much want to believe in that dream too! But the realist in me says that in a Stars V Pirates final the Pirates would edge it.

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1 hour ago, pointsmeanplayoffs said:

You're such a 'poundland mourinho' with your attempts at mindgames LOL

Just saying it as it is. Kings Lynn finished top so the pressure is all on them. No mind games needed. If Poole make the final against all the odds (bottom in July) they will have done a remarkable job. 

In doing so Pirates will have “the peoples vote” as the team to support.

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I think considering the team they started the season with and how much stronger it was than all the others then getting to the final is the very minimum expectation for Poole fans and the speedway community in general.

On the other hand Lynn were predicted to finish bottom so should feel under no pressure. Anything now is a bonus.

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