g13webb Posted September 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, BarracudaAce said: The move to sign Erik and then have MPT at reserve has to be the 'team change' of the season. Ironically - given the injury facts you stated in the first paragraph which have 'ruined' the Aces season - would the Stars be where they are now had Kerr NOT got injured? If Stars go onto win the title then it has all worked out for you - and, despite our woes with injuries at the NSS, its all part and parcel of speedway and would we want it any other way? (of course, we don't want to see any rider actually getting hurt but, unfortunately, it is that very thing that produces many team changes and the way things then pan out). Whilst there are still 15 heats of the semi-final to ride, I suppose we should always cling onto hope? But, if the Aces can't become champions, then I hope it is finally the Stars turn. I was a regular attender at Saddlebow Road during the Betts / Simmons / Cole / Lee era through the 70s before I moved to the Manchester area, and so the Stars were once upon a time my 'top flight' club. It would then be good to see the yellow and green (as they were back then and I reckon still should be) as champions!! Good point. That's something I've not thought about. Not wanting to rubbish Kerr, he performed well at reserve but notably found points harder to score when elevated into the team 1-5. Whereas, Riss has settled in real well and finds the AFA to his liking. A quality gater, this talented long tracker,with a fast and smooth style, is the ideal partner for Robert Lambert. between them they are a powerful pairing. Not only that, his acquisition meant we also had a permanent strong reserve in MPT. Had Kerr remained fit, I would imagine he and MPT would have swapped their places on a regular basis, and that wouldn't have been ideal. as it is now we have a settled team each riding with the same partner every week.... So in answer to your question, Probably not..... Them good ole days of Betts; Simmo; Cole and Lee, still burn in my memories . Sure was wonderful times …... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 5 hours ago, g13webb said: ,Have always had a soft spot for Belle Vue, and whenever we have failed, my second thoughts are always directed to them hoping they will succeed. Even this year, I had hoped if we cant win it then I hope they do. So it is with a heavy heart I say, they have a mountain to climb. Even without their bad luck and with a full team, to come here for the 2nd leg 8 points adrift they would find it hard to overcome. To do so with a scratch team, they will take a minor miracle. I know they will try 100% and give it their all, but it would need the Stars to have all the bad luck in the world to lose this one. I'll go for 52-38 home win I expect it to be closer Webby. The Aces will be on it and if Lynn are comfortable I think they will be more focused on keeping safe and injury free. Lynn by 8-10 for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 14 point home win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Anybody got the stats on a chairman’s team winning the play offs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 minute ago, ouch said: Anybody got the stats on a chairman’s team winning the play offs? Stats ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Stats ? I think he means how many times has a chairman's team won the Prem/top league..If it's odds Lynn, Poole, Somerset, BV in that order at the bookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Stats ? Statistics.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Didn’t they have a big 70’s hit with I can’t give you anything ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Lynn have recently been seen as very (too) loyal to riders, it’s more than likely that Kerr, Rose and Andersen would all be in the team now if they hadn’t picked up injuries and forced the promotion’s hand. No doubt we are stronger with their replacements and in a perverse way Lynn’s hand being forced has probably resulted in topping the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Lynn have recently been seen as very (too) loyal to riders, it’s more than likely that Kerr, Rose and Andersen would all be in the team now if they hadn’t picked up injuries and forced the promotion’s hand. No doubt we are stronger with their replacements and in a perverse way Lynn’s hand being forced has probably resulted in topping the table. Have to agree with you there,. It's unfortunate when riders get injured and changes have to be made, but in the past we have not always replaced adequately when these incidents occur. We have had more than our share of injuries in previous years but never once use it as an opportunity to strengthen the team. Even at the early season, fans could see the improvement with the set-up of the team with the implementation of structural changes and the fitness rescheme, but we were still missing that cutting edge... What has changed Lynn into title contenders was the acquisition of Erik Riss. This has been, the pivotable piece of the team jigsaw. Like someone else said on this forum, that has to be the best replacement in the league this year.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 51 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Lynn have recently been seen as very (too) loyal to riders, it’s more than likely that Kerr, Rose and Andersen would all be in the team now if they hadn’t picked up injuries and forced the promotion’s hand. No doubt we are stronger with their replacements and in a perverse way Lynn’s hand being forced has probably resulted in topping the table. Try telling that to Holder and Batch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, g13webb said: What has changed Lynn into title contenders was the acquisition of Erik Riss. This has been, the pivotable piece of the team jigsaw. Like someone else said on this forum, that has to be the best replacement in the league this year.... Totally spot on Mr Webb. With Rose, Kerr and Anderson we are unlikely to have topped the table ( meaning no disrespect to any of that trio ). Eric Riss has, as you say, been the pivot around which positive changes have been made. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Steve0 said: Try telling that to Holder and Batch! A quite different and rather unique situation of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Steve0 said: Try telling that to Holder and Batch! They got the same ‘loyalty’ as they showed to Buster and the fans. The one thing riders should know about Chapman is you don’t :;() him over without there being a price to pay Edited September 27, 2018 by semion 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: Totally spot on Mr Webb. With Rose, Kerr and Anderson we are unlikely to have topped the table ( meaning no disrespect to any of that trio ). Eric Riss has, as you say, been the pivot around which positive changes have been made. That’s spot on he does in the main stay with his original plan. Though I’ve known to sack a few along the way. Madsen, Allot, even Topinka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, semion said: They got the same ‘loyalty’ as they showed to Buster and the fans. The one thing riders should know about Chapman is you don’t :;() him over without there being a price to pay As Mr Rogers found out with ‘enginefailuregate’. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: I think he means how many times has a chairman's team won the Prem/top league..If it's odds Lynn, Poole, Somerset, BV in that order at the bookies. I think thats what he means. Prices. Ive not seen any but i would think you will get no better than 7/4 Lynn to win it outright now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) Surely Starman you can’t be turning your back on the Pirates ? I’m sure you would be expecting Poole to take the play -off title from this position ? Ok the League title might be gone but the other one is still up for grabs Edited September 27, 2018 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Scrutton Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Barch and Holder were 100% the reason for their sacking 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Starman2006 said: I think thats what he means. Prices. Ive not seen any but i would think you will get no better than 7/4 Lynn to win it outright now. King's Lynn 8/15 Poole 9/4 Somerset 5/1 and Belle Vue 50/1 from Bet365 Edited September 27, 2018 by mark.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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