Falubaz Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, brandonmole said: I doubt you or others would be saying that if it was Nicki Pedersen and not Leon Madsen pulling off that move. Madsen did very bad. Fricke could just fall and Madsen would be easily excluded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, brandonmole said: I doubt you or others would be saying that if it was Nicki Pedersen and not Leon Madsen pulling off that move. It’s a tough one and at the risk of repeating what I said last week, Madsen just about had the lead. Max, like Bomber, decided to keep it wound on rather than read the move. He doesn’t leave racing room but this is top level speedway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonimac Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 You sometimes have to ask what you need to do to get excluded? Football is always criticised for the play acting but if Fricke had gone there, Madsen would have been excluded. It’s the sort of think that Pedersen would have been castigated for, or a habit Lingren seems to be comfortable with lately Ive been delighted at Madsen’s progress this year but very disappointed in that sort of life threatening behaviour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Fricke did that to Harris live on TV the other week,,,,, what goes around comes around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbread Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Poland strong no brits hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falubaz Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Where's the speedway expert talking about Poles not winning? AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, acef said: Racing incident. No different to the Fricke/Harris one at bv last week Not for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Fricke did that to Harris live on TV the other week,,,,, what goes around comes around He did and bomber should have read it, just like max should have. It’s an exclusion like Max’s was, if he went down, which by the book I guess is the correct decision. But I don’t agree with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, acef said: It’s a tough one and at the risk of repeating what I said last week, Madsen just about had the lead. Max, like Bomber, decided to keep it wound on rather than read the move. He doesn’t leave racing room but this is top level speedway. This is after all speedway racing,it would be nice if racing room was left whether it be top level speedway or at the very bottom.If it was N.Pedersen pulling that move he would have been castigated for it and rightly so.The same should apply for Madsen.This isn't football and riders can't just take a fall to get the other excluded for fear of injuring themselves. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Falubaz said: Where are the other Brits then? 2 Poles in the final. How are Poland doing in the Cricket World Cup? Ever won the Football World Cup? No? How about Rugby? Any F1 World Champions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, tellboy said: This is after all speedway racing,it would be nice if racing room was left whether it be top level speedway or at the very bottom.If it was N.Pedersen pulling that move he would have been castigated for it and rightly so.The same should apply for Madsen.This isn't football and riders can't just take a fall to get the other excluded for fear of injuring themselves. The thing is, unless I’ve missed it, it doesn’t say anywhere that you have to leave racing room. That is just a respectful, gentleman’s agreement. If max goes down then Leon goes as primary cause just like max did last week because that is the rule but if you stay on and fail to read the move then I guess you takes your chances. Its a real 50/50 but personally I don’t think Madsen does a lot wrong. Ungentlemanly maybe, but not outside of the rules. Pedersen has been castigated on a number of occasions for things that were just tough racing moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 At the end of the day if max is going to put it out then he’s got to be able to take it and tbf he didn’t go after Leon. Leon had got in front, there was a nice berm of dirt coming out of 3 and max was using it all night, picked up a shed load of speed and just doesn’t read the move for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Cracking rider Madsen... You don't be top five in Poland for several years without being world class and a bit ruthless.. Not many riders could ride so narrow at that speed down a straight and not drift to the fence on a slick track.. Proper talent... And whilst I have a soft spot for Dudek, Madsen isn't Polish... Tai 3 Poland 1... Edited June 16, 2019 by mikebv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 46 minutes ago, Baldyman said: Fricke did that to Harris live on TV the other week,,,,, what goes around comes around Exactly. A more seasoned campaigner would have put it down to get the points in a rerun. Just inexperience on his part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, ouch said: Exactly. A more seasoned campaigner would have put it down to get the points in a rerun. Just inexperience on his part. Probably would've also injured themselves and possibly others in the ensuing carnage. Racing incident as I see it Madsen came out of the bend pretty damn fast and touched Fricke. I'm well aware at those speeds a nudge is more than a wink. When you see it from behind Fricke had a fair bit of room. As Del-Boy used to say he who dares wins. Maybe Fricke should've cut inside instead of trying the outside. Who knows life is full of If's but's and maybe's. You get one chance to make a split second decision. Also Fricke didn't throw his toys out of the pram afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triple.H. Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, ouch said: Exactly. A more seasoned campaigner would have put it down to get the points in a rerun. Just inexperience on his part. Probably would've also injured themselves and possibly others in the ensuing carnage. Racing incident as I see it Madsen came out of the bend pretty damn fast and touched Fricke. I'm well aware at those speeds a nudge is more than a wink. When you see it from behind Fricke had a fair bit of room. As Del-Boy used to say he who dares wins. Maybe Fricke should've cut inside instead of trying the outside. Who knows life is full of If's but's and maybe's. You get one chance to make a split second decision. Also Fricke didn't throw his toys out of the pram afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tactical Joker Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Well done to Phil Morris and everyone else involved in getting the meeting done in two hours or so with the weather threat, that fortunately never really materialised (and for allowing us more drinking time afterwards). Madsen has to be taken seriously as a potential champion although there's a long way to go, but congratulations to Kolodziej for grabbing the win. Edited June 15, 2019 by Tactical Joker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Col said: How are Poland doing in the Cricket World Cup? Ever won the Football World Cup? No? How about Rugby? Any F1 World Champions? This is a Speedway forum. He / She has every right to gloat. Unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 The most embarrassing aspect of the evening from a British perspective, once again, was Craig Ackroyd's performance. Absolutely dreadful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted June 15, 2019 Report Share Posted June 15, 2019 Why dreadful? Apologies if I missed these embarrassing decisions but Prague boreathon is a ‘fast forward’ luxury. Only contentious incident, as I recall, was if Fricke had gone down Madsen would probably have been excluded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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