Peterborough v Lakeside KOC, CS SF & Play Off SF 6th/7th Oct

[New era Panthers]

4 hours ago, iainb said:

Now that's what I call an apology... Not coming on here and not apologising

I take you wasn't there as you don't even venture to you're new home track , but if you had have been there i'm sure I would have recognised you wearing you're  idiot mittens.

[New era Panthers]

3 hours ago, KevtheRev said:

“We’ve been beaten on aggregate this time but what I will say is that we were beaten as a team, which is our team, without any games or whatever you want to call it.

No games really - so you not agreeing to any fixtures at Arena Essex, knowing it would have to be ridden at Rye House is exactly what?  just taking the piss?

Your team - well congrats on signing Carl Wilkinson and Thomas Jorgenson in that case.

 

To counteract you're sarcastic reply I think I should point out to you that Carl Wilkinson & Thomas Jorgensen were replacements for riders who genuinely couldn't be involved in the meeting through injury and not like the Lakeside re-enforcements who were brought in , who could have rode in this meeting , but you're management decided they would be better off bringing in guests who they thought would definitely score more points , some would call it a clever ploy others would call it pure gamesmanship.

[montie]

3 hours ago, TonyE said:

 

The apology comes with barbs and that diminishes it in my opinion.

although you maybe are correct one could argue its excellent promotion

 

everyone loves a bit a niddle and Speedway is sadly lack that these days

[IainB]

45 minutes ago, New era Panthers said:

I take you wasn't there as you don't even venture to you're new home track , but if you had have been there i'm sure I would have recognised you wearing you're  idiot mittens.

See you next Tuesday

[KevtheRev]

26 minutes ago, New era Panthers said:

To counteract you're sarcastic reply I think I should point out to you that Carl Wilkinson & Thomas Jorgensen were replacements for riders who genuinely couldn't be involved in the meeting through injury and not like the Lakeside re-enforcements who were brought in , who could have rode in this meeting , but you're management decided they would be better off bringing in guests who they thought would definitely score more points , some would call it a clever ploy others would call it pure gamesmanship.

It would have been madness to risk Ben & Alfie getting there on time. Correct decision made.

If your management had agreed to  raced this meeting back in August when only 1 rider from your team would have been missing, yesterday wouldn't have happened, plus It would have been warm and no delay for floodlights.

[New era Panthers]

15 minutes ago, KevtheRev said:

It would have been madness to risk Ben & Alfie getting there on time. Correct decision made.

If your management had agreed to  raced this meeting back in August when only 1 rider from your team would have been missing, yesterday wouldn't have happened, plus It would have been warm and no delay for floodlights.

Either you've got you're wires crossed or you are very misguided What has the meeting on the supposed date in August at Lakeside got to do with yesterday's meeting in Peterborough.

[New era Panthers]

22 minutes ago, iainb said:

See you next Tuesday

I could answer you back on that but I wont sink to those levels .

[KevtheRev]

Neither - Lakeside proposed at date in August but your management said no.

I'm not going to feed you the facts, there on here somewhere if you want to investigate.

 

[IainB]

5 minutes ago, New era Panthers said:

I could answer you back on that but I wont sink to those levels .

You already had

[New era Panthers]

2 minutes ago, KevtheRev said:

Neither - Lakeside proposed at date in August but your management said no.

I'm not going to feed you the facts, there on here somewhere if you want to investigate.

 

The date in August would not have taken place even if Peterborough had agreed to the fixture as there was already 3 championship meeting taking place that day i'm pretty sure MR Godfrey would have soon put the dampers on it'

[New era Panthers]

3 minutes ago, iainb said:

You already had

Wrong again , please try and keep up , it's not that hard , I didn't resort to foul mouthing even if it was in code.

[scoobydoo]

14 minutes ago, KevtheRev said:

Neither - Lakeside proposed at date in August but your management said no.

I'm not going to feed you the facts, there on here somewhere if you want to investigate.

 

And what about the fact Lakeside pulled out of the announced second meeting as apart of a double header at Peterborough in August stating rider unavailability on the day, 

Edited October 1, 2018 by scoobydoo

[NickRushbrook]

Yeah, dirty cheating scoundrels, all of 'em!

Jokes aside, hope that we (Lakeside) are at full strength for the semi.

Bowtell and Morley are on fire and I think we missed them last night.

Hope Zach is back as well and hoping for a fair couple of meetings.

 

[IainB]

13 minutes ago, New era Panthers said:

Wrong again , please try and keep up , it's not that hard , I didn't resort to foul mouthing even if it was in code.

You were rude though... Even if your grammar was terrible.

[Vincent Blachshadow]

5 hours ago, TonyE said:

The reality is that other promotions do not have emergency lighting to hand. Peterborough are in a particularly unique position in this regard.

The apology comes with barbs and that diminishes it in my opinion. Neil Watson went to great pains to point out it is the referee who terminates a meeting early, yet we have references to the 'early finish' at Rye with the inference it was totally a Lakeside decision - so which is it? Last night both teams were using guests and references to 'playing games' does not sit well with someone who, on the face of it, would not agree to race at Arena when the opportunity was there.

I wonder what strokes will be pulled for the play-offs.

A referee, however powerful he might be within speedway, can't over-rule a curfew and allow a match to carry on. In this instance, wasn't he fed the line that there was a curfew therefore he had no alternative but to stop the racing?

Edited October 1, 2018 by Vincent Blachshadow

[bigcatdiary]

1 hour ago, Vincent Blachshadow said:

A referee, however powerful he might be within speedway, can't over-rule a curfew and allow a match to carry on. In this instance, wasn't he fed the line that there was a curfew therefore he had no alternative but to stop the racing?

What curfew, the one that didn’t exist two weeks previously when they raced until 2315, or the one that mysteriously appeared in the Lakeside match report that for some reason affected the speedway but didn’t seem to affect the go karts which were still racing after the speedway had finished.

Perhaps it might have has something to do with the amount of noise complaints Rye House Received for running until 2315 for the previous meeting or did Mick Bates decide he had had enough and wanted to go home because Lakeside couldn’t physically overhaul Peterborough,s lead in the final two heats, (sets an interesting precedent for future matches over an aggregate tie).

 

 

 

[marko]

I would not be surprised if there was a curfew at Rye House but because over the decades nothing has ever come close to it, it was merely forgotten about, Maybe Len didn't tell the current owners about it? maybe there was complaints after the other week and it was uncovered then?

[tocha]

29 minutes ago, bigcatdiary said:

What curfew, the one that didn’t exist two weeks previously when they raced until 2315, or the one that mysteriously appeared in the Lakeside match report that for some reason affected the speedway but didn’t seem to affect the go karts which were still racing after the speedway had finished.

Perhaps it might have has something to do with the amount of noise complaints Rye House Received for running until 2315 for the previous meeting or did Mick Bates decide he had had enough and wanted to go home because Lakeside couldn’t physically overhaul Peterborough,s lead in the final two heats, (sets an interesting precedent for future matches over an aggregate tie).

 

 

 

I'm surprised that go karts were still running by then as they advertise their opening  times 9am -10pm. As for last Saturday, by the time the meeting was brought to a halt I'd certainly had enough!

[BluPanther]

1 minute ago, marko said:

I would not be surprised if there was a curfew at Rye House but because over the decades nothing has ever come close to it, it was merely forgotten about, Maybe Len didn't tell the current owners about it? maybe there was complaints after the other week and it was uncovered then?

Should be in the agreement or contract, one must presume Lakeside would have one or the other ....

[tocha]

2 minutes ago, marko said:

I would not be surprised if there was a curfew at Rye House but because over the decades nothing has ever come close to it, it was merely forgotten about, Maybe Len didn't tell the current owners about it? maybe there was complaints after the other week and it was uncovered then?

I am sure you are right and must have existed prior to speedway returning to Hoddesdon in around 2000. Presumably, that is why Len  had a start time of 7pm and 6pm for double-headers although these were a rarity on Saturday evenings. Usually double headers, and there were many of them, were held on Sunday or Bank Holiday Monday afternoons so the curfew wasn't tested except, possibly one v Birmingham/King's Lynn which must have come close as the second meeting didn't start until gone 9pm following delays in the first.