Peterborough v Lakeside KOC, CS SF & Play Off SF 6th/7th Oct

[BobC]

I eventually gave up and left early. My choice.

Fair play in trying to get the meeting to continue. Bringing in temp lights,moving them,moving them again and again wasn't looking good. Comical if we weren't sat in the cold with little information. Waiting over 45 minutes,still no real sign if the meeting restarting, cold and tired,I gave up.

Bizarre situation in the car park. Being careful where I was walking on the uneven surface with the temporary lighting being just enough to get by. Along come the emergency lighting crew to take the light back to the track. Fair enough. What I wasn't expecting was to see one of the guys staying in the van and having a cigarette, no apparent urgency. Then suddenly no lights making it a very dangerous. No thought for public safety.

A very bad day,speedway wise for me. Suffered the poor NLRC and then this. Left home at 6am and got back at 11pm. 

In no rush to return to either Leicester or Peterborough after yesterday. Poole tonight for the play off is very likely to be my last meeting if the season. Can't make the final even if the Pirates get there! 

 

[junior fan]

So am I reading this right that the Peterbourgh promotion let Lakeside replace a rider that last visit scored zero , with a rider that last visit scored 9.

Junior

[Noodles]

32 minutes ago, BobC said:

I eventually gave up and left early. My choice.

Fair play in trying to get the meeting to continue. Bringing in temp lights,moving them,moving them again and again wasn't looking good. Comical if we weren't sat in the cold with little information. Waiting over 45 minutes,still no real sign if the meeting restarting, cold and tired,I gave up.

Bizarre situation in the car park. Being careful where I was walking on the uneven surface with the temporary lighting being just enough to get by. Along come the emergency lighting crew to take the light back to the track. Fair enough. What I wasn't expecting was to see one of the guys staying in the van and having a cigarette, no apparent urgency. Then suddenly no lights making it a very dangerous. No thought for public safety.

A very bad day,speedway wise for me. Suffered the poor NLRC and then this. Left home at 6am and got back at 11pm. 

In no rush to return to either Leicester or Peterborough after yesterday. Poole tonight for the play off is very likely to be my last meeting if the season. Can't make the final even if the Pirates get there! 

 

Just out of interest what time did you make it to the showground from Leicester?

Edited October 1, 2018 by Noodles

[IainB]

12 hours ago, NeilWatson said:

A great deal of uninformed nonsense posted here tonight. I challenge any other Club faced with a major floodlight failure to be able to install temporary lights (albeit with a delay) and then complete the meeting.

 

12 hours ago, NeilWatson said:

Totally incorrect. Once a meeting starts it is the referee, and the referee ALONE who can decide to abandon a meeting. As staging Promoter I have no control over that decision.

 

12 hours ago, NeilWatson said:

Not only were we determined to finish the main meeting, we had eleven junior riders here for an MDL challenge match who would have lost the opportunity to ride had the meeting been abandoned.

 

Is this your idea of an apology to fans? You seem to be patting yourself on the back more than apologising.

Edited October 1, 2018 by iainb

[TonyE]

I was/am well aware that the meeting referee has the final call on abandonment but, as others have said, normally receives input from the teams involved. I applaud Peterborough for having 'emergency' lighting replacements to hand (without such the meeting/result would most certainly have been called off/result declared) and it was their decision to try to utilise said equipment that 'kept the meeting' alive. Whether or not the likely impact/delay on the spectators present, on a chilly evening, played any part in the decision making process, only the home promotion know.

As ever, and common across the speedway community, communication could be improved.

[BobC]

10 minutes ago, Noodles said:

Just out of interest what time did you make it to the showground from Leicester?

Took us 70 minutes. Got there at 4.35.

[cityrebel]

Sounds like a very stressful day for all concerned. I was prepared to do both meetings yesterday, but the events at Rye the night before, made the decision for me.

[jenga]

with it being a show ground, cars,, trucks and horses , plus other things going on . it was sure to have temp lighting for various stands and odd bits of other lighting in and around the venue . even tho other tracks will not have this type of gear  available to them , because they dont have to have it .  sure many tracks will not have extra lighting because they dont do other events . why are you patting yourself on the back ?

[Sully]

33 minutes ago, iainb said:

 

 

Is this your idea of an apology to fans? You seem to be patting yourself on the back more than apologising.

They’ve already apologised.....how many tines / ways do you want them to do it?

[Sully]

49 minutes ago, junior fan said:

So am I reading this right that the Peterbourgh promotion let Lakeside replace a rider that last visit scored zero , with a rider that last visit scored 9.

Junior

Not sure Peterborough get to approve the opposition team. If it’s within the rules then they have no say whatsoever. Whether it’s in the spirit of the sport etc is another matter. 

Edited October 1, 2018 by Sully

[BluTiger]

34 minutes ago, iainb said:

 

 

Is this your idea of an apology to fans? You seem to be patting yourself on the back more than apologising.

http://www.peterboroughpanthers.co/news.php?extend.3497

[bigcatdiary]

Difficult match with lots of problems but Lakeside won fair and square on aggregate so good luck to them, nice to see we got the match fully completed and no bullsh$yte concerning curfews etc.

Onwards now to the next chapter as we look towards the play Off semi finals next weekend, all to play for with honours even after the first two ties in the KOC cup and Championship Shield.

[Gunner85]

Peterborough got through the meeting despite most difficult circumstances.

Well done GED and Peterborough in general... other promoters may have given up or gone for abandonment with result standing.

 

[IainB]

28 minutes ago, BluPanther said:

http://www.peterboroughpanthers.co/news.php?extend.3497

Now that's what I call an apology... Not coming on here and not apologising

[montie]

unbelievable really that dispite what seems a  fanstatic effort by the Boro promotion to get the meeting completed there are folk moaning about being cold and delays

sometimes there is feck all you can do about things going wrong and delays

 

what a bloody world we live in,,  Man up ffs and buy a bloody good coat

 

Well done to Rathbone and all for not giving,finding a solution and completing the meeting

[KevtheRev]

“We’ve been beaten on aggregate this time but what I will say is that we were beaten as a team, which is our team, without any games or whatever you want to call it.

No games really - so you not agreeing to any fixtures at Arena Essex, knowing it would have to be ridden at Rye House is exactly what?  just taking the piss?

Your team - well congrats on signing Carl Wilkinson and Thomas Jorgenson in that case.

 

[TonyE]

54 minutes ago, Gunner85 said:

Peterborough got through the meeting despite most difficult circumstances.

Well done GED and Peterborough in general... other promoters may have given up or gone for abandonment with result standing.

 

The reality is that other promotions do not have emergency lighting to hand. Peterborough are in a particularly unique position in this regard.

The apology comes with barbs and that diminishes it in my opinion. Neil Watson went to great pains to point out it is the referee who terminates a meeting early, yet we have references to the 'early finish' at Rye with the inference it was totally a Lakeside decision - so which is it? Last night both teams were using guests and references to 'playing games' does not sit well with someone who, on the face of it, would not agree to race at Arena when the opportunity was there.

I wonder what strokes will be pulled for the play-offs.

[Jonny the spud]

Oh well. I suppose it’ll fire up the lakeside boys. 

[liam]

It should make Saturday a bit more interesting after all these meetings with each other. I might even have a visit to Rye myself for this one.

[tocha]

2 hours ago, TonyE said:

The reality is that other promotions do not have emergency lighting to hand. Peterborough are in a particularly unique position in this regard.

The apology comes with barbs and that diminishes it in my opinion. Neil Watson went to great pains to point out it is the referee who terminates a meeting early, yet we have references to the 'early finish' at Rye with the inference it was totally a Lakeside decision - so which is it? Last night both teams were using guests and references to 'playing games' does not sit well with someone who, on the face of it, would not agree to race at Arena when the opportunity was there.

I wonder what strokes will be pulled for the play-offs.

Peterborough were invited to come to the Raceway on 31st August but declined due to rider unavailability although, as far as I can see, only Grondal would have been missing due to a pre-arranged Danish fixture. Ironically, though, it would never been allowed to go ahead anyway due to three CL fixtures taking place already one, of which, involved Scunthorpe.