stevebrum Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 Just now, Skidder1 said: You're right - maybe different year, different rules? Different (non-injury) situation - don't know?! Another example of change it/keep it/alter it/hide from the viewing public/make it up rules that gives another reason why our sport lacks any credibility. Its another of those rules ‘it depends who is asking’! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 7 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: You're right - maybe different year, different rules? Different (non-injury) situation - don't know?! More like different club different rules. We’ve been there before. You'd like to think that where a declared rider can’t start the season who is a long serving club man then a bit of common sense could be applied for his reintroduction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: If thats the case then can Thorssell even come back in? Surely his average is higher than Scotts and I doubt the team total is under the limit We are currently 1.03 under the limit so plenty of room for him to come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 hours ago, dabbsjoe said: anyone think that Jacob has burnt his bridges with Wolves and CVS/Adams ? he told them he was going to be fine when they spoke to him about being in the team. CVS has said that they were annoyed by his stories over the winter when they turned out not to be true. wouldn't surprise me if he's not back here this season and Wolves stick with Nicholls He's very close to Pete and his family, the way Pete was talking at the pre season talk in he would have him back as soon as possible. CVS was less committal saying it would be a tough choice if Scott does well. Jacob was fine when he first agreed to sign, the injury came later, he then thought he was going to be ok by the start of the season but then didn't heal as well as he thought it would. He told Pete / CVS as soon as he realised he was going to miss the start of the season. Imo Jacob will be back at some point this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 4 hours ago, stevebrum said: Really? Where did you hear this? I’d be surprised if Jacob has been released. Just my understanding of the situation Steve, I may be wrong 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, IronScorpion said: Not sure on this but has happened before in that there is/was a rule in place that if a rider finished in a team the previous year & is declared the following year, a facility can be granted. But, I do not know how r/r has been allowed for Morris as he had not ridden for Wolves this year & last year was at Swindon. A 28 day r/r facility can be granted at the discretion of the mc. However that 28 days is now up so who knows, the logical thing to do would be to replace Morris with Thorssell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 10, 2019 Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Call me wolfie said: Just my understanding of the situation Steve, I may be wrong Thought I’d missed an announcement somewhere! No worries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Sweetman Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) According to the Nigel Pearson, Jacob doesn't yet feel ready for the "demanding and technical tracks in the UK".And Nick Morris is a couple of weeks away. Edited May 11, 2019 by Tommy Sweetman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Tommy Sweetman said: According to the Nigel Pearson, Jacob doesn't yet feel ready for the "demanding and technical tracks in the UK".And Nick Morris is a couple of weeks away. As good old ian thomas allways said,"its simple just turn left at the end of the straight"if fit to ride in poland or where ever he is fit for uk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 38 minutes ago, geoff100 said: As good old ian thomas allways said,"its simple just turn left at the end of the straight"if fit to ride in poland or where ever he is fit for uk. Apparently not, it's fair to say there is no track like Wolves in Poland! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Tommy Sweetman said: According to the Nigel Pearson, Jacob doesn't yet feel ready for the "demanding and technical tracks in the UK".And Nick Morris is a couple of weeks away. I bet if the all of a sudden wanted to run a GP at Eastbourne and he was offered a wild card he would be fit as a flea and up for it........ 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, Trees said: Apparently not, it's fair to say there is no track like Wolves in Poland! A good observation from which we can conclude ( partially at least ) that tracks like Wolves ( tight and technical etc ) are totally unsuitable for modern speedway bikes. Hence the huge decline in support on the UK terraces at the same time as the massive increase in regular support in Poland. UK speedway tracks need different, less highly powered bikes to show thrilling, attractive racing that people will pay to see. All the spin of "Alive & Kicking" will be shown up as washed up dross by the end of July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Tommy Sweetman said: According to the Nigel Pearson, Jacob doesn't yet feel ready for the "demanding and technical tracks in the UK".And Nick Morris is a couple of weeks away. If a rider is fit to ride - then he is fit to ride everywhere he is contracted to. I assume that Nicholls was a replacement for him rather than a temporary facility. In which case, he runs the risk of Wolves being unable to reintroduce when he can be bothered. Nicholls, Morris and Thorsell for 2 positions. I can see Morris having one of the shortest stints ever at Wolves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 2 hours ago, waytogo28 said: A good observation from which we can conclude ( partially at least ) that tracks like Wolves ( tight and technical etc ) are totally unsuitable for modern speedway bikes. Hence the huge decline in support on the UK terraces at the same time as the massive increase in regular support in Poland. UK speedway tracks need different, less highly powered bikes to show thrilling, attractive racing that people will pay to see. All the spin of "Alive & Kicking" will be shown up as washed up dross by the end of July. Yeah and it's easier to race on the big, open Polish tracks following an injury, of course I guess the financial rewards make a difference too lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 4 hours ago, waytogo28 said: A good observation from which we can conclude ( partially at least ) that tracks like Wolves ( tight and technical etc ) are totally unsuitable for modern speedway bikes. Hence the huge decline in support on the UK terraces at the same time as the massive increase in regular support in Poland. UK speedway tracks need different, less highly powered bikes to show thrilling, attractive racing that people will pay to see. All the spin of "Alive & Kicking" will be shown up as washed up dross by the end of July. That's not my conclusion at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Trees said: Yeah and it's easier to race on the big, open Polish tracks following an injury, of course I guess the financial rewards make a difference too lol along with a lot more serious injuries on the Polish tracks!"!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyderd Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: along with a lot more serious injuries on the Polish tracks!"!! Very true, Poland is where all or nearly all of the bad injuries occur. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 hour ago, hyderd said: Very true, Poland is where all or nearly all of the bad injuries occur. I admit I don't watch Polish league speedway, but I guess all the riders give it that bit extra due to the money and trying to hold down a team place. Maybe contributing to the accidents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 (edited) On 5/11/2019 at 3:29 PM, Skidder1 said: along with a lot more serious injuries on the Polish tracks!"!! Of course because of the speed and commitment ... Gonna add 'pressure' on riders to that list, it's all entwined with money as well .... Edited May 13, 2019 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 11, 2019 Report Share Posted May 11, 2019 I see the spin doctors are at work to make Thorssell look like the bad guy here... makes me worry it's to cover up not bringing him back.. which would be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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