A ORLOV Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: Oh, I thought it was just British riders It all depends upon the wording of the rule, does it say only Brits and what does it say about those with dual nationality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedyOne Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: Oh, I thought it was just British riders Quote from the AGM Statement: " (NB to support the progression of riders who have progressed through the National Development League, all riders will receive a 2.5% reduction in their average) " 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWolves Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just now, CottonOn said: Quote from the AGM Statement: " (NB to support the progression of riders who have progressed through the National Development League, all riders will receive a 2.5% reduction in their average) " Yes I stand corrected that is the rule so it will apply to N.Morris, Howarth and A.Morris. What a shame Thorsell and Masters didn't have a year in the National League 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfsbane Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, DJWolves said: Yes I stand corrected that is the rule so it will apply to N.Morris, Howarth and A.Morris. What a shame Thorsell and Masters didn't have a year in the National League  Now you're being plain greedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call me wolfie Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 23 minutes ago, Beowulf said: At the talk-in, they said he hadn't replied to their communication, which I assume was phone/text. So at that stage, not very hopeful ! Agreed but just reading between the lines as CVS needs more time to assess his options before any further announcements. I would have thought Jacob would be guaranteed on his current average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beowulf Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Call me wolfie said: Agreed but just reading between the lines as CVS needs more time to assess his options before any further announcements. I would have thought Jacob would be guaranteed on his current average Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, geoff58 said: no deduction for morris has to be british not aussie !!  Wrong. 1. He has dual nationality. 2. And more importantly he rode in the 3rd tier so of course he qualifies. understanding the rules helps.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Wrong. 1. He has dual nationality. 2. And more importantly he rode in the 3rd tier so of course he qualifies. understanding the rules helps. Â Â Knowing exactly what the rule says will help even more. The press release may or may not be what eventually ends up in the rule book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Aces51 said: Knowing exactly what the rule says will help even more. The press release may or may not be what eventually ends up in the rule book. Is that like many published new rules when they realise they have screwed up again, they ought to get someone who can check out and construct rules which cover all the options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: Is that like many published new rules when they realise they have screwed up again, they ought to get someone who can check out and construct rules which cover all the options. Indeed - they need to be clear in what they want to achieve and construct the reg accordingly Is it competed in the 3rd tier Is it British passport holders Is it those elligible to ride for GB internationally And if one contadicts another which has the override In many ways it doesnt matter which current riders would be included/excluded as it should be the principle that is important not the individual  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Aces51 said: Looks like a solid start for Wolves. Morris will soon get dialled in and the significant home advantage should guarantee that he improves his average. He should also do better away after his poor season this year but I'm less convinced about that. He will do considerably better as he won't, at least initially be riding at No 1 which was a major reason for his average dropping.. exactly the same with Thorssell. He won't take any dialling in to Monmore, he is as good as most there already. Edited December 4, 2018 by BWitcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Based on how Morris perfumed at Lakeside last year I would say that Wolves is a great move for both rider and club. If Morris is given a good racing surface ( which he will get at Wolves) he will be a very entertaining rider to watch I am sure. Pretty good gater, and decent overtaker when he doesn't make the start.. He rapidly became one of my favourite riders last season. He also seems very professional in his set up. Its only the poor racing surface at Swindon last season that kept his average down after a few bad knocks caused by the track. I wish Nick and Wolves well for the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cupidstunt Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Schlien Howarth N Morris A Morris Becker Thorsell Masters  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 The vast majority of riders become more familiar with a track when it becomes their home track. Even if they have previously done well there, they get more dialled in. Particularly, when it is a track with a significant home advantage. Morris will be no exception and will improve on the 7.27 he averaged in his two Swindon meetings at Monmore last season. I will be surprised if he doesn't average at least 8/9 at home. Coincidentally, last season he also averaged 7.27 at Blunsdon but only 6.85 away. That to me shows that it wasn't just his problems with the Swindon track that adversely affected him last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 8 hours ago, E I Addio said: Based on how Morris perfumed at Lakeside He stunk the place out? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 11 hours ago, Beowulf said: I think the Pawlicki connection is fantasy league stuff. Would love him back, thought he was superb in his 1 season. It's not fantasy and is an option any team would consider as he is not only entertaining but also capable of being one of the best in the league.  However including Piotr would mean no return for one of Jacob or Rory and one is almost part of the family and one considered by the management as the backbone of the club on and off the track.  if he is looking at Britain as a way of getting more meetings then he will surely be a target of another track if Wolves don't take him on or could they use him as part of a swap deal with another club ? Whoever they get they will have a solid top four all capable of good scores and in Becker and Howarth they have potential to improve and without much pressure.  Basically they hey have exchanged two mediocre riders in Jonas B Andersen and Nathan Greaves for two Internationals of Nick Morris and Luke Becker which is a big improvement on the 2018 team that lacked back up to the top three. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtf Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 9 hours ago, INCOGNITO said: It's not fantasy and is an option any team would consider as he is not only entertaining but also capable of being one of the best in the league.  However including Piotr would mean no return for one of Jacob or Rory and one is almost part of the family and one considered by the management as the backbone of the club on and off the track.  if he is looking at Britain as a way of getting more meetings then he will surely be a target of another track if Wolves don't take him on or could they use him as part of a swap deal with another club ? Whoever they get they will have a solid top four all capable of good scores and in Becker and Howarth they have potential to improve and without much pressure.  Basically they hey have exchanged two mediocre riders in Jonas B Andersen and Nathan Greaves for two Internationals of Nick Morris and Luke Becker which is a big improvement on the 2018 team that lacked back up to the top three. Not sure anyone in the UK can afford what Pawlicki thinks he's worth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 2 hours ago, wtf said: Not sure anyone in the UK can afford what Pawlicki thinks he's worth Poole apparently could this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJWolves Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Nikolai Klindt advertising on twitter that he needs a new England based mechanic, ideally from the Wolverhampton area. I presume that's just because he lives round here and there's nothing more to be read into that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, DJWolves said: Nikolai Klindt advertising on twitter that he needs a new England based mechanic, ideally from the Wolverhampton area. I presume that's just because he lives round here and there's nothing more to be read into that? Maybe to act as driver & mechanic to get him to and from meetings as well as mechanic for him. Would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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