Red Flag Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 No one will be able to live with Belle Vue according to acef 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 1:22 PM, Sidney the robin said: That would certainly give Becker a chance to find his feet a decent opportunity for him. Expand Lost his Polish team though which will certainly affect his income and race sharpness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish keeper Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 1:46 PM, Sings4Speedway said: Lost his Polish team though which will certainly affect his income and race sharpness. Expand May be get fixed up in the Championship to help him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 1:54 PM, fish keeper said: May be get fixed up in the Championship to help him out. Expand There's only five places left (at Newcastle and Eastbourne) and no prospect of him being signed unless he could come in on a 5 average for Eastbourne (who might also have Nick Morris) instead of the anticipated Ben Morley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 8:16 AM, acef said: I’m working on the basis that you’ll complete with Thorssell and Morris. Jacob traditionally struggles on the road. If it’s Pawliki then that changes everything. Easily the strongest team in the league. Expand Jacob was 6th best away average overall in 2017 so not traditional at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:17 PM, stevebrum said: Jacob was 6th best away average overall in 2017 so not traditional at all. Expand That’s not where he should be though. Countless times he had poor scores away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 1:30 PM, foreverblue said: Stronger than belle Vue .Surely not! Expand I speak openly and honestly. It’s just an opinion. If you get pawliki then you’ll have the strongest septet. If you don’t, you won’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:17 PM, stevebrum said: Jacob was 6th best away average overall in 2017 so not traditional at all. Expand He was but everything was inflated that season due to riding at 4 all year. That said, like you, I wouldn't say he 'traditionally struggles' on the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:18 PM, acef said: That’s not where he should be though. Countless times he had poor scores away. Expand It’s irrelevant where he ‘should be’ tho. He was. So your point doesn’t stack up. He has had several poor away performances as a Wolf but many top scoring as well. Besides Doyle and Lambert this year I don’t think one other rider other than Lindgren the year before had a good away record. so your point can apply to just about every other top end league rider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:23 PM, BWitcher said: He was but everything was inflated that season due to riding at 4 all year. That said, like you, I wouldn't say he 'traditionally struggles' on the road. Expand Correct, he doesn’t. Which was my point. Besides the odd poor meeting he has been decent value away the past few seasons now hence why the point acef made isn’t a valid one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:18 PM, acef said: That’s not where he should be though. Countless times he had poor scores away. Expand Think you misread that, wasn't 6th in the Wolves team, but 6th highest away average overall in 2017. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:20 PM, acef said: I speak openly and honestly. It’s just an opinion. If you get pawliki then you’ll have the strongest septet. If you don’t, you won’t Expand I don't think Poole will get Pawlicki!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:31 PM, BWitcher said: Think you misread that, wasn't 6th in the Wolves team, but 6th highest away average overall in 2017. Expand I understood it. As a number 1, in an 8 team league, 6th isn’t anything to shout about imo. He had some good meetings, but was inconsistent for a number 1 and nowhere the level of Freddie. If you get Pawliki you’ve got yourself a proper number 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 2:24 PM, stevebrum said: It’s irrelevant where he ‘should be’ tho. He was. So your point doesn’t stack up. He has had several poor away performances as a Wolf but many top scoring as well. Besides Doyle and Lambert this year I don’t think one other rider other than Lindgren the year before had a good away record. so your point can apply to just about every other top end league rider. Expand He’s prone to the odd 4 or 5 point return on the road. I absolutely take your point that other teams have similar issues and those teams will also find it difficult on the road. The way you’ve built is solid, really solid, but if you finish with Thorssell I think that will be the difference between you winning a title and not. Have Pawliki leading that team and you breeze the division imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 3:15 PM, foreverblue said: I don't think Poole will get Pawlicki!!!! Expand I’ll bet you wish they could though :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 3:29 PM, acef said: I understood it. As a number 1, in an 8 team league, 6th isn’t anything to shout about imo. He had some good meetings, but was inconsistent for a number 1 and nowhere the level of Freddie. If you get Pawliki you’ve got yourself a proper number 1 Expand In fairness very few are near the level of Freddie in the top flight anymore so a little unfair comparison. 6th best away average proves only 5 were better than him in all away matches last season. This year he didn’t step up to the standard of a number one, but ditto Morris, Kurtz Iversen, Cook etc. On 12/20/2018 at 3:41 PM, acef said: He’s prone to the odd 4 or 5 point return on the road. I absolutely take your point that other teams have similar issues and those teams will also find it difficult on the road. The way you’ve built is solid, really solid, but if you finish with Thorssell I think that will be the difference between you winning a title and not. Have Pawliki leading that team and you breeze the division imo. Expand Absolutely, he has had the odd stinker away this year but on the whole fairly decent and certainly not drastic. With Thorssell we still have a solid look about the team. If we do sign Pawlicki assuming he is committed of course then it adds a whole different dynamic to the team. I’d have preferred Pawlicki instead of Schlein and also keep Jacob. We would extra points for final member. that said I’m more than happy with what we have so far and what’s likely. I haven’t seen a more solid side yet besides Peterborough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 3:51 PM, acef said: I’ll bet you wish they could though :-) Expand Yes I do either of the brothers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 1:54 PM, fish keeper said: May be get fixed up in the Championship to help him out. Expand In the past riders on assessed averages have not been able to double up Must have an attained an average from the previous season in either league which is then converted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 3:54 PM, stevebrum said: In fairness very few are near the level of Freddie in the top flight anymore so a little unfair comparison. 6th best away average proves only 5 were better than him in all away matches last season. This year he didn’t step up to the standard of a number one, but ditto Morris, Kurtz Iversen, Cook etc. Absolutely, he has had the odd stinker away this year but on the whole fairly decent and certainly not drastic. With Thorssell we still have a solid look about the team. If we do sign Pawlicki assuming he is committed of course then it adds a whole different dynamic to the team. I’d have preferred Pawlicki instead of Schlein and also keep Jacob. We would extra points for final member. that said I’m more than happy with what we have so far and what’s likely. I haven’t seen a more solid side yet besides Peterborough. Expand If Pawlicki sign's i certainly would of kept Jacob, Pawlicki , Jacob,Masters what a three that is ok you might not of signed Morris but either way you will be a force in 2019. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 20, 2018 Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 3:54 PM, stevebrum said: In fairness very few are near the level of Freddie in the top flight anymore so a little unfair comparison. 6th best away average proves only 5 were better than him in all away matches last season. This year he didn’t step up to the standard of a number one, but ditto Morris, Kurtz Iversen, Cook etc. Absolutely, he has had the odd stinker away this year but on the whole fairly decent and certainly not drastic. With Thorssell we still have a solid look about the team. If we do sign Pawlicki assuming he is committed of course then it adds a whole different dynamic to the team. I’d have preferred Pawlicki instead of Schlein and also keep Jacob. We would extra points for final member. that said I’m more than happy with what we have so far and what’s likely. I haven’t seen a more solid side yet besides Peterborough. Expand Not convinced by Peterborough myself. Think you have a much better team even with Jacob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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