geoff100 Posted September 28, 2018 Report Share Posted September 28, 2018 1 hour ago, jenga said: in the words of sugar, Alan that is ....................................... YOURE FIRED I wish just lost 40 p out the tip bag lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 On 9/28/2018 at 6:45 AM, mikebv said: What has changed so dramatically THJ? Disposable income... Nowadays we have mobile bills not just for ourselves but our children, nowadays we pay out big money for cable/satellite TV, nowadays we pay out more big money for access to the Internet, and nowadays we pay fortunes on utility bills, public transport costs and fuel for private travel, insurance on housing and vehicles, higher rental charges, and obviously ever increasing mortgage values on ever increasing house prices... All the while that has been taking place, Speedway has obviously seen some of the same costs rising, so it's answer was to reduce the quality of the product on offer but brought in umpteen inflation busting price rises on the back of it.. Team Speedway (in the UK), has no way back from here I would suggest... Cant disagree with any of this Plus I feel a great deal of the General Public prefer to watch sports on their TV, X-box, Play Station, other hand held device even their mobile phone and if your product isn't on these media streams it gets overlooked. TV gets the sport out into the public domain then the interest to watch it live is generated from that. Pity you couldn't gamble on races to get the bookies interested as that would get the sport out there. Here,s a mad idea three team meetings giving 6 riders per race (like a dog race) 15 heats gambling on each race the bookies could possibly be in on that, fully televised every meeting streamed into betting shops? Unfortunately the investment to widen tracks and set things up would be colossal but it needs some radical thinking to turn things round. Regards THJ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 People would just bet from their phones or betting shops and wander back to the pub. The lost art of attending live sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted October 2, 2018 Report Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, topaz325 said: People would just bet from their phones or betting shops and wander back to the pub. The lost art of attending live sport. That's exactly what happens with Brough Park dogs and the crowds used to be in the high hundreds but now they are lucky if they hit a couple of hundred, however as their races are televised live into every bookies in the country and on line, the stadium owners don't care who comes through the turn-styles as they get 10% of all world wide gambling so if someone in Australia gambles $100 dollars on a dog race at Brough the company gets 10% so they don't care if only a hundred or so "live dog racing fans" come through the door as the returns must be colossal and I doubt they would let anyone in if they didn't have to do so for their licence. They also get a fee for very televised meeting they run which is streamed into the bookies nationally , its a licence to print money. It's like someone said on here recently about Polish speedway, the crowds are totally immaterial as the whole thing is sponsored and supported through national sponsorship deals with high profile television support, it's just that over their there is still a lot of speedway fans (bike riders whose first node of transport is a bike rather than a car) which I feel also helps. I doubt it would ever happen but this is the type of "soft revenue stream" clubs need. If clubs got money through the door from something like this; i,e, gambling; which then made it moot how big the crowd was; you would be challenging Poland for the top riders rather than them having sway on all and sundry. It is only an opinion but I doubt the people who run the sport would have the wherewithal to set up a deal of this nature anyway Regards THJ Edited October 3, 2018 by TotallyHonestJohn Spelling, Spell Check and Eyesight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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