Rob B Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 After heat 6 I thought we would be lucky to win the meeting, never would have thought we we be going into heat 14 with still a chance! In the end 10 points was a good result we let ourselves down in 1st leg as usual. From heat 6 to heat 15 we made up the 14 points, if only we didn’t go behind in the match, heat 2 and heat 5 were the critical heats. Heat 13 what a cracker again! All 4 riders kept passing each other with Cook pipping Doyle on the line for a 5-1! Even better then the heat 13 two weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 The crowd was good considering city are at home and United on TV. Cracking meeting and congrats to Somerset on getting to the final. Heat 13 was again sensational. As Rob said as per usual the Aces go out due to a poor away leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Fred Flange said: I'm looking forward to seeing heat 13 again, watching it live it looked better than last week! It was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Congratulations to the Rebels, all 7 of them chipping in with valuable contributions to see them home. Great to see Cookie showing real speed, looked relaxed & smooth on the bike pulling off some great passing moves. That heat 13 was simply brilliant, well worth a look! Heat 15 wasn't too shabby either. Thoughts now turn to this coming Monday..... Edited September 19, 2018 by mikec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Daniel Smith said: What's the crowd like. Must be a tough gig going up against both Manchester clubs playing Champion's League?? I thought it was a decent crowd there looked to be quite a lot on the back straight and a few rebels fans as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 I think the obsession on here of 'what the crowd looks like' has had its day.. A very small minority sport gets crowds in keeping with its status in the national sporting grand scheme of things.. If the Aces get say 1500 it won't look anywhere near full but given the sports following and standing, it certainly is a reasonable crowd.... Probably not self financing but that is more down to the unrealistic, probably unsustainable, fixed costs that the sport has.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERACE Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, mikebv said: I think the obsession on here of 'what the crowd looks like' has had its day.. A very small minority sport gets crowds in keeping with its status in the national sporting grand scheme of things.. If the Aces get say 1500 it won't look anywhere near full but given the sports following and standing, it certainly is a reasonable crowd.... Probably not self financing but that is more down to the unrealistic, probably unsustainable, fixed costs that the sport has.. That's always the issue at BV the size of the stadium can be deceiving to a small crowd when in speedway terms it's actually good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, SUPERACE said: That's always the issue at BV the size of the stadium can be deceiving to a small crowd when in speedway terms it's actually good. Spot on... If you spent two days in Piccadilly Gardens in City Centre Manchester and asked 500 random people a day 'who are the Belle Vue Aces?"... I would be amazed if out of one thousand men, women and children asked, 100 could give a correct answer... And possibly the more realistic answer is that no more than 50 out of the 1000 could.. In reality 1500 or so isn't too bad for such a poorly generically recognised Sport... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted September 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 At the mid stage of the meeting I certainly didn't expect that we might win by 10. Some good racing and lots of passing in the second half of the meeting. A superb heat 13, an entertaining heat 15 and Lawson fought hard to eventually pass Berge in heat 14. Congratulations to Somerset and it was good to see their riders going over to applaud the fans who had made the long journey to support them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw42 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, mikebv said: Spot on... If you spent two days in Piccadilly Gardens in City Centre Manchester and asked 500 random people a day 'who are the Belle Vue Aces?"... I would be amazed if out of one thousand men, women and children asked, 100 could give a correct answer... And possibly the more realistic answer is that no more than 50 out of the 1000 could.. In reality 1500 or so isn't too bad for such a poorly generically recognised Sport... Valid point but Piccadilly Gardens (as was) these days is mostly populated by spice users, they wouldn't even know their own names. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Another cracking meeting at the NSS highlighted by a stunning heat 13 that surpassed even the much hyped one from a couple of weeks ago. Best sight for me was Craig Cook at his very best. After a poor start in his first ride, he was just brilliant whether he was out of the gate or not. Those who suggest it is time for him to move on have got it very wrong for me. While I accept that Belle Vue's attendances are better than most, it is still disappointing to see the grandstand half full when it has been two thirds or three quarters full in the past. There were mitigating factors last night, but it still doesn't make it much less disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Halifaxtiger said: Another cracking meeting at the NSS highlighted by a stunning heat 13 that surpassed even the much hyped one from a couple of weeks ago. Best sight for me was Craig Cook at his very best. After a poor start in his first ride, he was just brilliant whether he was out of the gate or not. Those who suggest it is time for him to move on have got it very wrong for me. While I accept that Belle Vue's attendances are better than most, it is still disappointing to see the grandstand half full when it has been two thirds or three quarters full in the past. There were mitigating factors last night, but it still doesn't make it much less disappointing. Why is it disappointing though HT? Speedway is just a tiny minority Sport in the UK.. I think we as fans need to adjust our expectations of what crowd levels the sport should get.. The Sport is on a level (at best) with Ice Hockey in the UK and maybe even smaller than that considering they managed to get 7000 at the play off final at a neutral venue. (Speedway couldn't do that I am sure)... And the downward trend in crowd levels historically each year would suggest in five years or so a half full grandstand would be seen as a positive thing as circa 100 or so 'regulars' seem to drop off annually... Considering hardly anyone virtually on their doorstep could name who the club is and what it does, never mind name or recognise any of the riders who ride for them, the crowds are not that bad... (For Speedway)... Edited September 20, 2018 by mikebv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, mikebv said: Why is it disappointing though HT? Speedway is just a tiny minority Sport in the UK.. I think we as fans need to adjust our expectations of what crowd levels the sport should get.. The Sport is on a level (at best) with Ice Hockey in the UK and maybe even smaller than that considering they managed to get 7000 at the play off final at a neutral venue. (Speedway couldn't do that I am sure)... And the downward trend in crowd levels historically each year would suggest in five years or so a half full grandstand would be seen as a positive thing as circa 100 or so 'regulars' seem to drop off annually... Considering hardly anyone virtually on their doorstep a could name who the club is and what it does, never mind name or recognise any of the riders who ride for them, the crowds are not that bad... (For Speedway)... If it can, in fact, live financially on such low crowds on a regular basis - so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebv Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: If it can, in fact, live financially on such low crowds on a regular basis - so be it. And that is the fundamental issue... Crowds for such a tiny Sport that considering that it has virtually zero marketing on any decent scale, are in most places 'OK'... The costs are the problem... All historical evidence suggests that crowds won't grow (and will decline further) hence costs need to come down.. Not likely to happen though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Heat 13 now on belle vues Twitter and Facebook pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 I’ve now seen both heat 13’s and in my opinion I preferred the first one.....but both cracking adverts for the sport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 Heat 13 : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 I preferred the race from a couple of weeks ago but that may be because of the extra camera angles and watching it ‘live’. However last nights was still an incredible race going by the video. Must be a nightmare leading a race later on in an NSS meeting with both opponents all over you, impossible to know where to ride as there are so many lines of attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Rob B said: Heat 13 : Great race, what a race track NSS is,and whoever prepares it seems to know what they are doing.Lots of grip all over track and evenly spread.It must be this special shale that all the other promoters and track men are unable to find ,when they make their excuses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 NSS still has it's faults for some reason again the 1st half dozen heats were FTG then it kicks in. Very rare for us to have good racing early on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.