bendover Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) I think it's the nature of the allegations, with Starr and Barrymores refusal to shed light on the events upset not only the establishment but the general public. Of the others you mention their misdemeanours per se only really damaged themseves(drugs for eg).However I still can't understand how Michael Jackson is still fawned over. Edited September 18, 2018 by bendover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Blackadder said: Google will explain. i csn only see something about his brother - no big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendover Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 Big drug abuser in his pop days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 13 minutes ago, bendover said: Big drug abuser in his pop days well, duh!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) Jason Done (Waterloo Road) was/is often at Belle Vue, even getting some BV posters into one episode I recall. Also didn't Matt Ford bring a rock star celeb to a recent BV v Poole meeting this season? Can't remember his name..? Several of the current and former AFC Bournemouth players are regular visitors to Poole - probably going back to when MF was on the AFCB Board. Edited September 18, 2018 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Jason Done (Waterloo Road) was/is often at Belle Vue, even getting some BV posters into one episode I recall. Also didn't Matt Ford bring a rock star celeb to a recent BV v Poole meeting this season? Can't remember his name..? Didn't a proper world champion darts player used to pop into Poole or was it just as a celeb guest?Phil 'the power' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, iris123 said: Didn't a proper world champion darts player used to pop into Poole or was it just as a celeb guest?Phil 'the power' Nah, Phil wasn't a speedway fan, and he wouldn't go down to Poole when he had Stoke on his doorstep either; Shov wasn't that attractive to him!!! Phil's main sporting interest is Port Vale F.C. Incidentally, we had a similar thread a few years back. Steve Edited September 18, 2018 by chunky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted September 18, 2018 Report Share Posted September 18, 2018 14 hours ago, steve roberts said: I remember watching Eddie Kidd perforning a jump on his motor bike at Wood Lane during the interval once. He was also a Wimbledon regular. He lived just down the road in Tooting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerblade Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 In the 70s most of the bike sports folk went to watch each other - Barry Sheene was often pictured at meetings, and another road racer Mick Grant who was around at the same time, was at Sheffield more than once. As for more up to date, the football referee Uriah Rennie was a regular at Owlerton a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tigerblade said: In the 70s most of the bike sports folk went to watch each other - Barry Sheene was often pictured at meetings, and another road racer Mick Grant who was around at the same time, was at Sheffield more than once. As for more up to date, the football referee Uriah Rennie was a regular at Owlerton a few years ago. mick grant was eric boococks mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, adonis said: mick grant was eric boococks mate ..and was an employee of Honda, and it was through that link that the Honda experiment in 1998 was introduced through Neil Machen then Sheffields promoter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 18 hours ago, iris123 said: Didn't a proper world champion darts player used to pop into Poole or was it just as a celeb guest?Phil 'the power' Quite correct Iris123. Phil Taylor attended Wimborne Road on a few occasions as a guest of Matt Ford. It was back in the days of Sky when Premier League Darts was at the Bournemouth International Centre during the speedway season. Matt, Middlo and a few riders and sponsors usually had a table at the front of the stage for the darts. Steve Brandon was the 'Floor Manager' for the darts as he still is for BT for the Speedway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 We have " jenga "at workington. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 36 minutes ago, Tsunami said: ..and was an employee of Honda, and it was through that link that the Honda experiment in 1998 was introduced through Neil Machen then Sheffields promoter.. I remember that , unfortunately another time when speedway riders shot themselves in the foot , an opportunity to bring a massive brand into speedway ,which would have benefitted them and speedway financially , ,kicked into touch before it had a proper chance , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 Many moons ago ,the bass player from King ,was a regular at Coventry and sometimes Paul King himself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 25 minutes ago, adonis said: Many moons ago ,the bass player from King ,was a regular at Coventry and sometimes Paul King himself Yes. I actually spotted the bass player once, stood at the back of the home straight stand during a Swindon v Coventry match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, adonis said: I remember that , unfortunately another time when speedway riders shot themselves in the foot , an opportunity to bring a massive brand into speedway ,which would have benefitted them and speedway financially , ,kicked into touch before it had a proper chance , To be fair it would never have worked. The engines were existing 450cc motocross engines with a full gearbox which would just add unneeded extra weight. On the nights they were tested, some riders used third gear, whilst others got frustrated trying to find the optimum point of the right gear to give a good start speed and a good straight speed. I don't think anybody found that. Riders like Robbie Kessler and Paul Thorp got a high speed, and rode in an arc road racing style, but others like Nicki tried to do cut back, but there was just no acceleration to satisfy the riders or the paying public. The engines, which were run on petrol, just didn't generate enough acceleration to make it exciting for everyone. The principle of standard engines and running on a saleable fuel for advertising, is still a desirable concept, but unfortunately it didn't work in 1998. Incidently, one of the prime reasons for Honda was the fact that all the sports engines had won their classes in all the catergories, so Speedway was going to give them a clean sweep in all bike sports. Edited September 19, 2018 by Tsunami 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adonis Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tsunami said: To be fair it would never have worked. The engines were existing 450cc motocross engines with a full gearbox which would just add unneeded extra weight. On the nights they were tested, some riders used third gear, whilst others got frustrated trying to find the optimum point of the right heat to give the start speed and a good straight speed. I don't think anybody found that. Riders like Robbie Kessler and Paul Thorp got a high speed and rode in an arc road racing style, but others like Nicki tried to do cut back, but there was just no acceleration to satisfy the riders or the paying public. The engines which were run on petrol, just didn't generate enough acceleration to make it exciting for everyone. The principle of standard engines and running on a saleable fuel for advertising, is still a desirable concept but unfortunately it didn't work in 1998. Incidently, one of the prime reasons for Honda was the fact that all the sports engines had won their classes in all the catergories, so Speedway was going to give them a clean sweep in all bike sports. and with a race shop the size of the whole of triumph motorcycles and budget the size of the UK defecit , they might have built a speedway engine ,but it got knocked back before their technicians really got a look at it , I remember Brian Andersen trying one for 2 laps at Long Eaton and condemning it as dangerous before it was even properly warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted September 19, 2018 Report Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Skidder1 said: Quite correct Iris123. Phil Taylor attended Wimborne Road on a few occasions as a guest of Matt Ford. It was back in the days of Sky when Premier League Darts was at the Bournemouth International Centre during the speedway season. Matt, Middlo and a few riders and sponsors usually had a table at the front of the stage for the darts. Steve Brandon was the 'Floor Manager' for the darts as he still is for BT for the Speedway. Thanks.Yet again a naysayer pops their head out,but I thought I remembered something along those lines 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRushbrook Posted September 20, 2018 Report Share Posted September 20, 2018 I remember on the show 'they think it's all over', Gary Lineker won guess the sportsman while blindfolded although I can't remember who the rider was....maybe Mark Loram but not sure. Then divulged that he used to attend Leicester speedway back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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