Play Off Run In

[cityrebel]

9 minutes ago, Hunters said:

Weather forecast for Leicester good tomorrow with no rain.    

Presume Mildenhall will avoid picking Eastbourne in the semi's as their only loss this season was at Arlington in the Trophy and possibly in the league to come.

Hope they take Kent as we already have them in the KO Cup and Coventry will be a change.

The bees have already been to Arlington twice this season, so it's hardly a change.

[TurnTwo]

Eastbourne now confirmed unless something weird happens, Dugard Jnr didn’t need his extension. Mildenhall v Eastbourne in both finals. I reckon mildy will pick Kent 

[ruckerroo]

Yep, i think if i was mildys boss thats where i would go

[cityrebel]

1 minute ago, ruckerroo said:

Yep, i think if i was mildys boss thats where i would go

I agree, Coventry could be tricky if you ain't making the starts.

[uk_martin]

So that's the Brummies post-season put into doubt following the abandonment of the meeting at Buxton. Doubtful if this fixture can now be re-run before the cut-off date.

Now Coventry Bees need points from TWO meetings against Buxton, if they are to get into the play-offs.

Only in British Speedway can a team that's not won a meeting all year have such a profound influence and impact on the top of the league table.

[Mike.Butler]

 So Buxton have manged to race against a mere 3 teams in one of the hottest summers on record. Along with Stoke there is no way either club should be considered in any professional/semi-professional set up going forwards.  What a shambles.

Edited September 17, 2018 by Mike.Butler

[Sings4Speedway]

As a club i like Buxton and have no axe to grind with them however 3 planned home fixtures during June & July certainly does not help the case. Add in the three home meetings that took place in May were National Trophy matches it adds further fuel to the fire that these competitions should be placed at the tail end of the season and not at the start. 

[IronScorpion]

Some posters have put the lack of fixtures during June/July down to not wanting to run against the Football World Cup. Have they heard of a "Record Button" at home. This has happened in all 3 leagues & every year has come up against CL Pairs, Cardiff GP, World Cup & The CL 4's in July. Surely, running some meetings with a possible loss of a few fans is better than running later in the year where "fans" will miss meetings due to being "pied off".

[uk_martin]

I wonder what the league table would lookl like if the Buxton and Stoke fixtures were expunged, as only riding and losing in half your fixtures favours some teams who are making a genuine effort as opposed to others who are similarly making a genine effort but who are being denied the chance of scoring league points by the ineptitude of the two joke teams in question.

[GiveusaB]

59 minutes ago, uk_martin said:

I wonder what the league table would lookl like if the Buxton and Stoke fixtures were expunged, as only riding and losing in half your fixtures favours some teams who are making a genuine effort as opposed to others who are similarly making a genine effort but who are being denied the chance of scoring league points by the ineptitude of the two joke teams in question.

Stoke beat us fair and square at their place ..... ???

[uk_martin]

3 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

Stoke beat us fair and square at their place ..... ???

Well, good for them I suppose. But they are 3 home and 1 away fixtrues short of completing their obligations. 3 teams have won at Stoke already, only Birmingham and IoW have lost there. Is it fair on Plymouth, Eastbourne, and Buxton (!) to deny them the chances of gaining points too?

Plymouth for instance, with 4 point wins at Stoke and Buxton (also not yet ridden) could leapfrog Birmingham in the league, and with some better luck and fortune elsewhere during the year, could have been in the mix at the end of the season, a fate that Buxton and Stoke have just about gotten away with denying them. You have to ask, if things had panned out differently for Plymouth, could Stoke have been culpable for keeping them out of the play-offs by not fulfilling their fixture obligations?

[Argos]

I really do think that the Birmingham Riders and Management wish they hadn’t refused to ride at Buxton earlier in the Season, If they had have ridden they would now be in the Play Offs, As there League Fixture was changed to a Trophy Meeting, But what I don’t understand is they were prepared to ride on Sunday when it WAS Dangerous,  

[GiveusaB]

8 hours ago, uk_martin said:

Well, good for them I suppose. But they are 3 home and 1 away fixtrues short of completing their obligations. 3 teams have won at Stoke already, only Birmingham and IoW have lost there. Is it fair on Plymouth, Eastbourne, and Buxton (!) to deny them the chances of gaining points too?

Plymouth for instance, with 4 point wins at Stoke and Buxton (also not yet ridden) could leapfrog Birmingham in the league, and with some better luck and fortune elsewhere during the year, could have been in the mix at the end of the season, a fate that Buxton and Stoke have just about gotten away with denying them. You have to ask, if things had panned out differently for Plymouth, could Stoke have been culpable for keeping them out of the play-offs by not fulfilling their fixture obligations?

I agree with you that their 'tracks' are probably not fit for purpose....but I really don't care about Plymouth/Eastbourne completing their fixtures?

At the end of the day, the teams that finish above 'us' in the league will be the teams that have 'beat' us and deserve to be there.....so from a  B'ham perspective, I can't see any room for argument/debate?

Plymouth may be/feel hard done by, but even they've had to cancel meetings because of sewage problems?

[GiveusaB]

This non completion of fixtures is a farce.....and running the National Trophy/KOC matches before the League fixtures doesn't help matters....but 'I/we' (other forum members) have already mentioned this.....but I doubt that the BSPA will take any notice!

[East End Fan]

Well, GiveusaB, My experience over many years tells me that the reason that less important dates such as National Trophy are run early

in the season is so that riders and tracks can get dialled in before the league matches come in.  Not that I consider Trophy to be

un-important, if you win it, you'd crow about it, I think.

[Sings4Speedway]

18 minutes ago, East End Fan said:

Well, GiveusaB, My experience over many years tells me that the reason that less important dates such as National Trophy are run early

in the season is so that riders and tracks can get dialled in before the league matches come in.  Not that I consider Trophy to be

un-important, if you win it, you'd crow about it, I think.

I can see why teams like those meetings early (effectively low pressure challenge matches) but if they went straight into league racing there could be a few upsets early on and surely the sport needs more shock results not less?

[GiveusaB]

52 minutes ago, East End Fan said:

Well, GiveusaB, My experience over many years tells me that the reason that less important dates such as National Trophy are run early

in the season is so that riders and tracks can get dialled in before the league matches come in.  Not that I consider Trophy to be

un-important, if you win it, you'd crow about it, I think.

Not really...the NT and the KOC doesn't float my boat...especially as not 'all' teams participate anyway?

As for dialling in ? if you're not race ready by start of May then you never will be ..... imo ?

I like S4S suggestion that there may be a few surprise results by getting straight on with it....?

The only riders that I see being hindered (as far as form/experience go) are the 'new' reserve riders ?

Edited September 18, 2018 by GiveusaB

[Woz01]

I wonder how strong the Birmingham 1-7 will be on Sunday?

[gazzac]

1 hour ago, East End Fan said:

Well, GiveusaB, My experience over many years tells me that the reason that less important dates such as National Trophy are run early

in the season is so that riders and tracks can get dialled in before the league matches come in.  Not that I consider Trophy to be

un-important, if you win it, you'd crow about it, I think.

Also if you've a wiz kid coming in at reserve on a 3.00 can get half way through the year gaining experience before having to go up to the main body if you delay the league fixtures. Maybe another thing to adjust? (Sorry just seen GiveusaB made a similar point)

Edited September 18, 2018 by gazzac

[uk_martin]

43 minutes ago, Woz01 said:

I wonder how strong the Birmingham 1-7 will be on Sunday?

If the Cradley Globetrotters can't get together a 1-7 to beat Mildenhall, then I doubt that the Brummies will either. 

 

5 hours ago, GiveusaB said:

but I really don't care about Plymouth/Eastbourne completing their fixtures?

At the end of the day, the teams that finish above 'us' in the league will be the teams that have 'beat' us and deserve to be there

A case of "but for the grace of god there go the Brummies"... the problem has been identified, and ok this year other teams could have been affected. That doesn't mean that the problem shouldn''t be addressed and sorted out. Next year it could well be the Brummies who come a cropper, and then you'll be saying "why didn't we fix this problem earlier".