Starman2006 Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, bellevueace said: No but you never give it credit and that speaks volumes the truth certainly hurts when it comes to the NSS and especially if you are called starman Why should i give credit. I dont do it for any other track so why should i start with yours. Seems to me your the ones with the problem, not me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Why should i give credit. I dont do it for any other track so why should i start with yours. Seems to me your the ones with the problem, not me. Why not start now? Go on... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Why should i give credit. I dont do it for any other track so why should i start with yours. Seems to me your the ones with the problem, not me. You should give credit when credit is due. Your defense is weak. You know as well as the rest of us, including your fellow Poole fans, that you have an issue with the NSS. Why is beyond me. Its one of the best things to happen to British speedway in donkeys years. Unfortunately it won't matter a jot in the grand scheme. Edited September 16, 2018 by acef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 I have been to the new NSS about half a dozen times now and nothing touches it in the UK for facilities and track. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted September 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: I have been to the new NSS about half a dozen times now and nothing touches it in the UK for facilities and track. In terms of facilities Poole is very good and, very dependent on a decent track curator. I don’t think anybody could argue that Belle Vue is not the best facility in the UK and nor should they. It has cost a lot of money, has been specifically developed as a speedway venue and is new. It should be the the best and, arguably is the best. Let’s see if their team can “bring home the goods” and deliver on the huge investment made by the people of Manchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 The NSS is a standout easily the best track & stadium in the UK hands down! No other track or stadium comes near in the UK at present. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 With all these NSS-related posts do I assume that Poole 2019 will be based there? Its almost as if this forum should offer the opportunity for a new thread 'Who has the best track' in the Speedway Discussion section?! Oh hang on a minute......................................................................!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Excellent 2-page interview with Matt Ford by Phil Lanning in this week's Speedway Star, giving some insight into MF's possible future. In a seperate article, Middlo reckons that MF has already started his team building plans for next year, so Promoters must have a pretty clear view of the format/changes for 2019 - as long as they are agreed at the AGM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Excellent 2-page interview with Matt Ford by Phil Lanning in this week's Speedway Star, giving some insight into MF's possible future. In a seperate article, Middlo reckons that MF has already started his team building plans for next year, so Promoters must have a pretty clear view of the format/changes for 2019 - as long as they are agreed at the AGM. Read it, read it. Lets hope they get it right this time, they are going to need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: Excellent 2-page interview with Matt Ford by Phil Lanning in this week's Speedway Star, giving some insight into MF's possible future. In a seperate article, Middlo reckons that MF has already started his team building plans for next year, so Promoters must have a pretty clear view of the format/changes for 2019 - as long as they are agreed at the AGM. Hmmm, Middlo giving Matt's game away then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 Should imagine most of the rules are known by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Should imagine most of the rules are known by now. Wouldn't it be great if the supporters were briefed on the changes before they were implemented.... After all we all want the sport to be successful . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 It's obvious by now that the amount on income from the turnstiles is still not very important compared to other income streams ( sponsorship ) at a lot of clubs. Crowds are 30% to 50% down on five years ago at most clubs ( only one or two notable exceptions ) and that has not impacted much on how the sport is publicised to the outside world. Or perhaps it has, in that they have not spent as much on marketing of any kind. So supporters are still not high up on the need to know scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 13 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Should imagine most of the rules are known by now. DON'T count on it 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, waytogo28 said: It's obvious by now that the amount on income from the turnstiles is still not very important compared to other income streams ( sponsorship ) at a lot of clubs. Crowds are 30% to 50% down on five years ago at most clubs ( only one or two notable exceptions ) and that has not impacted much on how the sport is publicised to the outside world. Or perhaps it has, in that they have not spent as much on marketing of any kind. So supporters are still not high up on the need to know scale. How have you come up with 30 % and 50 %, you dont have any figures to support this . Yes crowds are down, but i think you are just plucking figures out of the sky. Edited September 22, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: How have you come up with 30 % and 50 %, you dont have any figures to support this . Yes crowds are down, but i think you are just plucking figures out of the sky. So how much are they down Starman? What figure would you cone up with? You agree they are down so you must have a thought about by how much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 Welcome back to Steve S. You have been missed. Interesting news posted on POL Speedway news last night. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/778390/chris-holder-ma-zostac-w-toruniu-nowy-kontrakt-uzgodniony Torun Media site saying Chris Holder is being offered a new contract for 2019 which surprised me for one as most news filtering out on POL media was that he would be asked to move on. Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel on his personal court case situ and in respect of his future in UK ???. Let's hope so as its obviously taken it's toll on the guy. Would not surprise me if he has offered to ride for less at Torun as he loves the club so much. Also with Jack riding I am sure they will travel out together and enjoy similar crew team etc. Will also maybe help Chris with his Monster sponsorship along with Jack. Will be one big load off knowing he has his main income stream sorted for 2019. If he can get a successful resolution to the legal case going on that works for all parties and get his visa situ sorted, then I think a calmer Chris with none of this hanging over him could be a shrewd signing for 2019 especially with his improving young Bro Jack. I would still like to see both in a Poole side but that is just my opinion. Get those 2 alongside Brady Kurtz/Woryna/Jackobsen. The remaining 2 to be determined by what the new league set up is - what points limit there is and also if it will be 6 men teams or 6 plus a young N/L Junior which personally would be my idea going forward. For me much as winning the league is important so is a team with plenty of youth and some experience with exciting riders developing. One would hope that Holder Jr/Kurtz/Woryna and Jackobsen are riders going forward with decent careers developing. Chris with no baggage and a sorted personal life could still be a bonus on 7.16 and would also be good to help the younger guys coming along. Much as the role that was supposed to have happened in Torun this year before the personal family issues kind of overtook events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: So how much are they down Starman? What figure would you cone up with? You agree they are down so you must have a thought about by how much Yes sure most clubs attendances are down, ours have been but i certainly couldnt put a figure on it across the board. And to my mind niether can anybody else, only the promotions will know by how much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 My figure was not plucked out of the air but was based on my own observations and by talking to people at other clubs as to what they thought the reduction had been at their club and on their travels. That is the best I can work out because, as we all know no crowd figures are given out ( even if retained ). I would hope that other fans will put forward their estimates of the losses from the terraces at their club - or are they in denial? If it were only about 10% since say 2012 I think there would not be so much speculation or concern. It is very noticeable at some clubs. I still feel that most ( not all ) clubs have lost up to 30% in that time and some up to 50%. Otherwise, why is there so much speculation about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted September 22, 2018 Report Share Posted September 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, waytogo28 said: My figure was not plucked out of the air but was based on my own observations and by talking to people at other clubs as to what they thought the reduction had been at their club and on their travels. That is the best I can work out because, as we all know no crowd figures are given out ( even if retained ). I would hope that other fans will put forward their estimates of the losses from the terraces at their club - or are they in denial? If it were only about 10% since say 2012 I think there would not be so much speculation or concern. It is very noticeable at some clubs. I still feel that most ( not all ) clubs have lost up to 30% in that time and some up to 50%. Otherwise, why is there so much speculation about it? I can guess within 200 or so roughly what our crowd is, but you need to know your staduim backwards. Then, you will have an idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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