DC2 Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, foreverblue said: He who laughs last laughs longest! ........ or is a blithering fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 7, 2018 Report Share Posted December 7, 2018 Who knows what will happen to Poole. One thing is for sure, if Ford gets his money. Any thing could.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, DC2 said: Just hoping Poole can be competitive from the outset rather than being a laughing stock again! Surely being a laughing stock for two months is worthwhile if your riders reduce their averages enough so you can bring in replacements who win the playoffs for you, riders who you then abandon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 8 hours ago, foreverblue said: He who laughs last laughs longest! He who laughs last doesn’t get the joke. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Poole going for the strength in depth approach again ? Didn’t get them to the top of the League last season but won them play-offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, semion said: Poole going for the strength in depth approach again ? Didn’t get them to the top of the League last season but won them play-offs. Especially as it now seems Jack Holder is Belle Vue bound Poole need to find a number one as that strength in depth route only won them the league because of the other teams injuries, cant see how Poole could have beat Somerset or Kings Lynn if both had fully fit 1-7. That isnt Pooles fault but they certainly had all the luck at the right time. Certain teams appear to be building very strong like Swindon and Wolves and Kings Lynn. People will say Poole always come up with a good side.......they dont...........last seasons original 1-7 was shockingly poor and only due to the fact Matt Ford throws his money around , and the pure fortune that Harris became available did they climb the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gavan said: Especially as it now seems Jack Holder is Belle Vue bound Poole need to find a number one as that strength in depth route only won them the league because of the other teams injuries, cant see how Poole could have beat Somerset or Kings Lynn if both had fully fit 1-7. That isnt Pooles fault but they certainly had all the luck at the right time. Certain teams appear to be building very strong like Swindon and Wolves and Kings Lynn. People will say Poole always come up with a good side.......they dont...........last seasons original 1-7 was shockingly poor and only due to the fact Matt Ford throws his money around , and the pure fortune that Harris became available did they climb the league Maybe next season as he winding down he won't be throwing his money around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Gavan said: Especially as it now seems Jack Holder is Belle Vue bound Poole need to find a number one as that strength in depth route only won them the league because of the other teams injuries, cant see how Poole could have beat Somerset or Kings Lynn if both had fully fit 1-7. That isnt Pooles fault but they certainly had all the luck at the right time. Certain teams appear to be building very strong like Swindon and Wolves and Kings Lynn. People will say Poole always come up with a good side.......they dont...........last seasons original 1-7 was shockingly poor and only due to the fact Matt Ford throws his money around , and the pure fortune that Harris became available did they climb the league End of the day its what happens in September and October that counts. Get over yourself, your lot will be alsorans next season wheres we will win the league, again. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 minute ago, ray c said: Maybe next season as he winding down he won't be throwing his money around Maybe but Poole are usually there or thereabouts most seasons but i dont think they can afford to be as poor as they were last season early on and rely on changes to win the league and a bit of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 Just now, Starman2006 said: End of the day its what happens in September and October that counts. Get over yourself, your lot will be alsorans next season wheres we will win the league, again. . I couldnt care less where we finish as long as the club and the sport survive but thats the difference in your mentality. You would rather win the league and watch clubs disappear. If we come bottom i dont mind as long as we get value for money in the racing and the club doesnt go under 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, ray c said: Maybe next season as he winding down he won't be throwing his money around I don't think that'll be the case. If Ford wants £250,000 for his club he needs to make sure the attendances are high and the team is successful. Struggling crowds will see the club valuation to a 3rd of his asking price. In reality, that's probably the real price of Poole anyway, Ford has seriously over valued the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: I don't think that'll be the case. If Ford wants £250,000 for his club he needs to make sure the attendances are high and the team is successful. Struggling crowds will see the club valuation to a 3rd of his asking price. In reality, that's probably the real price of Poole anyway, Ford has seriously over valued the club. He has said he will walk away if no buyer at the end of next season I believe .anyway who would pay that sort of money in a sport that is nearly on its last legs to be honest ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 250k, have they been queuing for that one? Must be a lot of goodwill factored into that valuation. Would love to see the EBITDA to understand how that figure was arrived at. Edited December 8, 2018 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Gavan said: Especially as it now seems Jack Holder is Belle Vue bound Poole need to find a number one as that strength in depth route only won them the league because of the other teams injuries, cant see how Poole could have beat Somerset or Kings Lynn if both had fully fit 1-7. That isnt Pooles fault but they certainly had all the luck at the right time. Certain teams appear to be building very strong like Swindon and Wolves and Kings Lynn. People will say Poole always come up with a good side.......they dont...........last seasons original 1-7 was shockingly poor and only due to the fact Matt Ford throws his money around , and the pure fortune that Harris became available did they climb the league I think most thought including the bookies that Poole's original starting 1-7 was good with one or two question marks. One of the main reasons for our slow start was Chris Holder being unable to ride, compounded by a slow start by one of two others like Josh and Brady didn't help, Szczpaniek was a mistake but understandable to get him as his form in Poland the previous season was very good. There is no doubt we got a bit of luck in the play offs but luck is part of all sport. Harris obviously was a major boost to the team and it is a shame he can't be fitted in but that's how the averages work sometimes. Peterborough also looking strong with Hans and Harris in my opinion. We won't have a true number one this season I think that is a given but I hope we have someone other than Kurtz as the top rider or at least someone capable of holding down the number one spot because Kurtz has proved he isn't good enough for that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Gavan said: I couldnt care less where we finish as long as the club and the sport survive but thats the difference in your mentality. You would rather win the league and watch clubs disappear. If we come bottom i dont mind as long as we get value for money in the racing and the club doesnt go under Really, ands where have i said that ? Clearly you are finding it hard to come up with something, so you invent it.. But we will win the league, again.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Eck Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, semion said: 250k, have they been queuing for that one? Must be a lot of goodwill factored into that valuation. Would love to see the EBITDA to understand how that figure was arrived at. On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much? Are you saying earnings as in turnover rather than profit? Edited December 8, 2018 by dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much? Tell that to an accountant and you will be laughed out of his office, riders and sponsors are not assets, therefore have no value. The riders, just like is seems that C Holder might, can just walk away and sponsors, as some have done, stop sponsoring. "without him (Ford), would anyone else be able to raise as much", the likely answer is no. Edited December 8, 2018 by A ORLOV 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wee Eck said: On a multiple of earnings basis, whether you use EBITDA or FME, the business is worth well in excess of £250k. The problem is that the success of Poole as a business has been down to Ford getting some very valuable sponsors. Without him, would anyone else be able to raise as much? What about Harry Redknapp when he leaves the jungle - he lives locally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted December 8, 2018 Report Share Posted December 8, 2018 (edited) Heard of a few rumored Belle Vue 1-7’s from good sources and Jack Holder not mentioned in any of them although I would love him at The Aces. Thought him and Kurtz were nailed on as the top 2??? Edited December 8, 2018 by Bradford Ace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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