Poole 2019

[ray c]

24 minutes ago, Starman2006 said:

Think you've been were were watching ter to much open all hours..

I think you should mind your own business and get back to cloud cuckoo land !!!

[Aces51]

If we want to talk recent history;

2015 Play Offs Poole 1st Belle Vue 2nd

2016 Play Offs Belle Vue 2nd Poole 3rd

2017 Play Offs Belle Vue and Poole = 3rd

2017 KO Cup Belle Vue

Not much in it either way. 

[Bald Bloke]

1 hour ago, Pirates Of Poole said:

Since 2000 which I would call the modern era Poole have been the most successful club with Coventry not far behind.  But Belle Vue remain the ‘most successful’ of all time currently even though they have have failed to win a league title for 25 years. 

 

Anyway back to Poole 2019 - Top 4 of Chris Holder, Jack Holder, Chris Harris & Brady Kurtz.

I don't know what Chris has done, but it can't be easily put right, cause he would of be here in 2018... Jack, I don't know, but he has had a good season with the Rebels.

Kurtz, Woryna and Jakobsen would be my shoe ins, if they fit in 2019's rules.

[willstaxi]

1 hour ago, Dave Jones said:

I think it's also fair to remind Shovlar & starman  that The aces have been running continuously since 1928, even operating through WW2. A history that no other club operating currently can match I believe. For their part The pirates didn't get started until twenty years later (1948) and there have been gaps in their history where the club has closed down for periods.

When considering greatness history is most important, it's unfair to just select a short period (as you call it the modern era ) & expect everyone to forget the rest , to justify a claim.

Poole have run every year since opening in 1948, the only time they did no compete in a league was 1957 and then they ran series of open meeting including two National League matches under the banner of Rayleigh Pirates

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, Gavan said:

Yes and we have our number one missing and Workingtons reserve as a heat leader up against quality in cook and Harris. I’ve commented on the Ipswich thread about half hour ago thanks for your concern 

Oh. Did you get lost?

 

[LisaColette]

1 hour ago, Pirates Of Poole said:

We will see Steve

Well watching Chris Holder's instragram stories recently, he said he will not appearing at Berwick or Wolves next year. Is that because he means he isn't interested in riding for Wolves? Or that he isn't riding in Britain in '19??

[Bald Bloke]

12 minutes ago, lisa-colette said:

Well watching Chris Holder's instragram stories recently, he said he will not appearing at Berwick or Wolves next year. Is that because he means he isn't interested in riding for Wolves? Or that he isn't riding in Britain in '19??

Or has he been a naughty boy ? Who knows

[Aviator]

9 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Well watching Chris Holder's instragram stories recently, he said he will not appearing at Berwick or Wolves next year. Is that because he means he isn't interested in riding for Wolves? Or that he isn't riding in Britain in '19??

I don’t think he’s going to be riding anywhere if I’m honest!! Certainly can’t see him in the Poole 2019 team.

[SteveLyric2]

12 hours ago, Gavan said:

Yes and we have our number one missing and Workingtons reserve as a heat leader up against quality in cook and Harris. I’ve commented on the Ipswich thread about half hour ago thanks for your concern 

Good to see 2 Somerset riders get the 'losing at home' vibe, with Bomber doing his thing away from home!! 

[SteveLyric2]

10 hours ago, lisa-colette said:

Well watching Chris Holder's instragram stories recently, he said he will not appearing at Berwick or Wolves next year. Is that because he means he isn't interested in riding for Wolves? Or that he isn't riding in Britain in '19??

Chris's situation is mentioned in a good article in the SS this week as well as on the Speedwaygp website.  Still lacking some nitty gritty detail but thats fine.

[Sidney the robin]

Poole in 2019 i  think  could  base there team around Kurtz, Jacobsen,Woryna,J.Holder. The Holder situation needs to be resolved because  this year he has made huge strides he has rode so well that he would be my rider of the year along with Bewley.Maybe if you have to have a young brit at reserve Jordan Jenkins maybe an option he has been linked and looks a fine long term prospect.Holder has to be a must i would even commit and say he is ready to be an in/out number 1 now.

[ray c]

22 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Poole in 2019 i  think  could  base there team around Kurtz, Jacobsen,Woryna,J.Holder. The Holder situation needs to be resolved because  this year he has made huge strides he has rode so well that he would be my rider of the year along with Bewley.Maybe if you have to have a young brit at reserve Jordan Jenkins maybe an option he has been linked and looks a fine long term prospect.Holder has to be a must i would even commit and say he is ready to be an in/out number 1 now.

quite agree but do you think jack would want to come back to poole im sure his career has come on bundles racing with doyley . so he actually may prefer to stay where he is depending how the leagues pan out next season of course

[MARK246]

47 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

Poole in 2019 i  think  could  base there team around Kurtz, Jacobsen,Woryna,J.Holder. 

Will Jacobsen and Woryna be eligible to ride in the UK next season ? After Brexit on 29th of March won't European riders require the same qualifications as the Australians, top 4 in a championship ?

[Sidney the robin]

1 minute ago, MARK246 said:

Will Jacobsen and Woryna be eligible to ride in the UK next season ? After Brexit on 29th of March won't European riders require the same qualifications as the Australians, top 4 in a championship ?

Great point that who knows, i can remember the old  criteria was that you had to achieve a 6 point average.

[Sidney the robin]

26 minutes ago, ray c said:

quite agree but do you think jack would want to come back to poole im sure his career has come on bundles racing with doyley . so he actually may prefer to stay where he is depending how the leagues pan out next season of course

I am sure they can sort something out everyone makes mistakes and it takes a bigger man to forgive and forget.Holder should be a massive part of the future for Poole he has top class quality.

[Mattfordfan]

Please stay Matt. 

Gavan wouldn't survive without you.

[Pirate Nick]

18 hours ago, Steve0 said:

That is the biggest load of sh!te I have read for a while!  I believe that if you asked Joe Public (who are not speedway fans) about famous Speedway teams, they would probably mention Belle Vue, Wimbledon, White City and even Coventry before they would think about Poole!

Yes, Poole have had good successes in the last decade but no way on earth can you compare that to the history of Belle Vue.

Anyone who agrees with you is either a troll or deluded.  Simple as that really!

 

 

I think it really depends on the age of the person that you are asking and for what its worth I'd rather watch speedway every week on a track like BV. Have been up several times and always seen good racing.

[Trees]

Chris’ll be happier with his brother at Somerset IF he races over here next year .....

Matt has shown that he doesn’t value Chris' involvement at Poole anymore ....

 

That’s a funny face Shovlar, he didn’t sign him when Chris needed to be at Poole big time!

Edited September 14, 2018 by Trees

[Steve Shovlar]

2 hours ago, Pirate Nick said:

I think it really depends on the age of the person that you are asking and for what its worth I'd rather watch speedway every week on a track like BV. Have been up several times and always seen good racing.

I don’t think you will find anyone, other than starman, perhaps, who doesn’t agree that Belle Vue’s track is the best in the country, if not the world. 

However, any fans new to the sport since, say, it has been on Sky and BT, would not say Belle Vue are the biggest club in the country. 

1. Because they have won nothing in donkeys years. Most fans who remember the halcyon days of BV are old or pushing up daisies.

2. Their crowds have not been very big.

However, since moving into the new impressive stadium, there is the opportunity to change things back. Their promotion need to increase attendances one way or another, and of course their team need to start emulating Poole and start winning a lot of titles. Work to do.

 

[Gavan]

1 hour ago, Steve Shovlar said:

I don’t think you will find anyone, other than starman, perhaps, who doesn’t agree that Belle Vue’s track is the best in the country, if not the world. 

However, any fans new to the sport since, say, it has been on Sky and BT, would not say Belle Vue are the biggest club in the country. 

1. Because they have won nothing in donkeys years. Most fans who remember the halcyon days of BV are old or pushing up daisies.

2. Their crowds have not been very big.

However, since moving into the new impressive stadium, there is the opportunity to change things back. Their promotion need to increase attendances one way or another, and of course their team need to start emulating Poole and start winning a lot of titles. Work to do.

 

Ok so the biggest club in any sport is the one with the best record in the last 10 years or so.

Of course a newbie wont know how good Wimbledon , Cradley , Belle Vue and even Coventry used to be, but its not the discussion.

As i said a newbie to football will think Huddersfield and Bournemouth are bigger clubs then Leeds or Aston Villa...........absolute tosh...........

It does seem however that it is only you that thinks Poole are a bigger club then Belle Vue..........more successful recently....but a bigger club is just tosh