STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Are you actually a Poole fan? Very disrespectful individual aren't you?? Getting 'stuck'? Nice Hopefully will be a good signing for Pbro and suited to their big track. I feel he would not have been so good for Poole 2019 on overall team make up with his elevated GRI due to Rye results being deleted, but yes was a decent signing from July having overcome any early season set up problems. It's good to see him sorted and with it being only a 2 hour drive from home in Telford on hopefully decent roads also puts him closer to home. I think if he had stayed at Poole he would have had some good days, but I am not convinced he was the way forward for the team although always grateful for his efforts in helping the team become Prem Champions in 2018. Will always be a good team player this side of 40 and hopefully beyond but just feel he would not achieve his uplifted GSA from season start in Poole for 2019 and that's my opinion. A lot happened for Poole in the last 3rd of the season which would be difficult to replicate with a squad built around his higher appointed GSA and with the team also having to lose 2.64 whole points on top. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Hopefully will be a good signing for Pbro and suited to their big track. I feel he would not have been so good for Poole 2019 on overall team make up with his elevated GRI due to Rye results being deleted, but yes was a decent signing from July having overcome any early season set up problems. It's good to see him sorted and with it being only a 2 hour drive from home in Telford on hopefully decent roads also puts him closer to home. I think if he had stayed at Poole he would have had some good days, but I am not convinced he was the way forward for the team although always grateful for his efforts in helping the team become Prem Champions in 2018. Will always be a good team player this side of 40 and hopefully beyond but just feel he would not achieve his uplifted GSA from season start in Poole for 2019 and that's my opinion. A lot happened for Poole in the last 3rd of the season which would be difficult to replicate with a squad built around his higher appointed GSA and with the team also having to lose 2.64 whole points on top. 2.64 oh my days Steve! Come on man, i don't even follow Poole and i know how many points they have to lose now ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Interesting little stat also on Jakobsen. In 13 matches for Poole after he joined in July he weighed in with 16 bonus points. When the team is trying to keep things tight these BP are important. Would have added over 1 point per meeting had BP been incl in GSA calculations. Of course it does help if you have a good team mate also in reserve as a partner :-) Hence an argument maybe to have strong reserves. Bonus points are irrelevant to the match score and are often acquired with a lazy third place, beating an opponent who is sub-standard, has given up or has fallen off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, The Doctor... said: 2.64 oh my days Steve! Come on man, i don't even follow Poole and i know how many points they have to lose now ! And your point is ????? For the purpose of the Poole 2019 Forum (which believe it or not this is...) it is a worthwhile discussion point that MAYBE a combination of Harris elevated GSA allied to the current team being 2.64 over, left Matt in a difficult position that he had to do some surgery on the team anyway to make it competitive (hopefully) for 2019. Maybe if Harris had not had his GSA uplifted and IF the team were not 2.64 over perhaps he would have been retained. We will never really know. Much as some wanted him back I think those 2 factors certainly didn't help. But it's part of forum chat which is better than the crap being aired on who won the league nonsense that's been going on last 2 days. Also many would have liked most of the team retained from 2018 but sure needs some work to get it down to within the limit so something has/had to give on team selection and still does. Again sensible forum discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, semion said: They sure did, over the course of the season I think we both agree that they were without doubt the best team in the League. Poole were just in the right place at the right to be take advantage of Kings Lynn's misfortune over the 2 legs. Yes, just the opposite of 2010. You were too busy calling us chockers to be bothered about it then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, DC2 said: Bonus points are irrelevant to the match score and are often acquired with a lazy third place, beating an opponent who is sub-standard, has given up or has fallen off. Not so irrelevant if you were on a 5-1 with your team mate though huh ?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: And your point is ????? For the purpose of the Poole 2019 Forum (which believe it or not this is...) it is a worthwhile discussion point that MAYBE a combination of Harris elevated GSA allied to the current team being 2.64 over, left Matt in a difficult position that he had to do some surgery on the team anyway to make it competitive (hopefully) for 2019. Maybe if Harris had not had his GSA uplifted and IF the team were not 2.64 over perhaps he would have been retained. We will never really know. Much as some wanted him back I think those 2 factors certainly didn't help. But it's part of forum chat which is better than the crap being aired on who won the league nonsense that's been going on last 2 days. Also many would have liked most of the team retained from 2018 but sure needs some work to get it down to within the limit so something has/had to give on team selection and still does. Again sensible forum discussion. Calm it - i'm just saying you're repeating the same bit over and over and over with every post. I've not contributed to any of the "crap" you're referring to, i'm just saying it's a bit repetitive with very little in forward strides. It's 2.64 i think most folk get that now. I've seen it in at least 15 of your posts now. Your posts are good and informative, albeit becoming difficult on the eye at the moment. Anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, semion said: They sure did, over the course of the season I think we both agree that they were without doubt the best team in the League. Poole were just in the right place at the right to be take advantage of Kings Lynn's misfortune over the 2 legs. You just have to suck it up that you won nothing. Can’t recall many saying Poole were the best in 2010 when we finished 24 points clear of Coventry. Injuries happen. You can enjoy the fact that KL had a good season by their standards but were blown away when it mattered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: You just have to suck it up that you won nothing. Can’t recall many saying Poole were the best in 2010 when we finished 24 points clear of Coventry. Injuries happen. You can enjoy the fact that KL had a good season by their standards but were blown away when it mattered. Agree 92-88. Poole blew Lynn away Can we keep this to 2019 please Edited December 4, 2018 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, The Doctor... said: Calm it - i'm just saying you're repeating the same bit over and over and over with every post. I've not contributed to any of the "crap" you're referring to, i'm just saying it's a bit repetitive with very little in forward strides. It's 2.64 i think most folk get that now. I've seen it in at least 15 of your posts now. Your posts are good and informative, albeit becoming difficult on the eye at the moment. Anyway. It's simple - don't read them if difficult on the eye. I try to cultivate interesting Forum discussion on my team - i.e Poole. Yes I keep repeating it but it's in respect of trying to get people to engage with team ideas rather than the situation many would like to have seen Harris/Kurtz/Woryna/Graz/Jakobsen & Klindt all back or the majority of that team at least. How do you juggle the balls but stay within the limit. The only name probably not thrown in is Worrall but on 5.60 you won't get much change out of that. Maybe I expect too much from the Forum. The idea is to keep meaningful discussion among Poole fans and any other Speedway fans who want to comment during the dark and quiet close season. Thanks anyway for reading even if it does send you to sleep ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Less is more #justsaying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said: Agree 92-88. Poole blew Lynn away Can we keep this to 2019 please Maybe if Buster announced a KL signing they would have something else to talk about! Edited December 4, 2018 by lisa-colette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: It's simple - don't read them if difficult on the eye. I try to cultivate interesting Forum discussion on my team - i.e Poole. Yes I keep repeating it but it's in respect of trying to get people to engage with team ideas rather than the situation many would like to have seen Harris/Kurtz/Woryna/Graz/Jakobsen & Klindt all back or the majority of that team at least. How do you juggle the balls but stay within the limit. The only name probably not thrown in is Worrall but on 5.60 you won't get much change out of that. Maybe I expect too much from the Forum. The idea is to keep meaningful discussion among Poole fans and any other Speedway fans who want to comment during the dark and quiet close season. Thanks anyway for reading even if it does send you to sleep ;-) If you want meaningful discussions that stay on topic then yes you are asking for too much!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, poolebolton said: Sorry, stuck is a poor choice of words. I just don’t think bomber is the guy to deliver another title. I don’t get why just because I’m a poole fan I have to like Chris Harris. Never really been a fan. But that’s my personal choice. No problem with you or anyone not liking him...if I'm honest I'm not a big fan either but as a non Poole fan respect the job he did for Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Did Chris Harris sign for Poole this year on his Rye average or the higher pre-Rye average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, DC2 said: Did Chris Harris sign for Poole this year on his Rye average or the higher pre-Rye average? He signed on an average that included his Rye house scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, poolebolton said: He signed on an average that included his Rye house scores. Oh dear. So Kings Lynn are the true champions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, poolebolton said: He signed on an average that included his Rye house scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 minute ago, DC2 said: Oh dear. So Kings Lynn are the true champions? Kings Lynn were the best team. I would hapily admit that. So we’re wolves in 2017. Swindon might have won 2015 if Ward wasn’t injured. Poole might have won 16/17/18 if we had Darcy. Can only best what is put in front of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Yeah, but Chris Harris’s pre-Rye average put Poole above 42.5 so it was illegal, wasn’t it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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