foreverblue Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, ray c said: I do actually agree with you kings lynn were the better side over 24 meetings by far but unfortunate statistics tell a different story . and for what its worth we never deserved to win luck played a major part Luck plays a part in all sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 An interview with Fred J was published this morning in Poland. Make of this what you will. First of all, I want to continue to develop as a player, so that my career will constantly move forward. I hope that I will compete a lot - I have scheduled meetings in Denmark, Poland, England, and I also hope that I will not miss juniors' events. It promises to be a very busy year for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Luck plays a part in all sport. You could also argue, that the team that finishes top isn’t ALWAYS the “best”, but the luckiest! Many factors can contribute, including injuries (obviously) and timing. Some teams meet opponents who are noticeably weaker than the rest and pick up the points, whereas others meet them just after they’ve strengthened up due to a drop in the averages. Its the only way we can judge who is the best over the season, and it’s as close to fair as we’ll ever get. But it’s certainly a fallacy to suggest that the top team is always the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, semion said: Ray, Lynn finished top of the League. So over the course of the season they were the best team. Poole won the play-offs, so they were the best team over 2 matches. Like it or not, them's are the facts. 1 hour ago, semion said: You are wrong there skidder. many people in Norfolk were very proud that Kings Lynn, for the first time in their history finished top of the no 1 League in British Speedway. So why say nobody ? Where did you gain that info from ? Was it a straw pool you did at Wimborne ? It’s all pretty easy. No one can deny that Kings Lynn were the best team over the complete league racing season. There is now no such thing as topping the league and being crowned champions. It’s not been that way for many a year. Whether that is right or wrong is a totally different subject. Lynn fans can feel mighty proud of their teams effort in 2018 and in the same breath be equally disappointed they didn’t win the play offs. Facts of the matter however show Poole as league winners in 2018 with Kings Lynn runners up. They only facts relevant on who won the league this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, poolebolton said: Poor Pboro. Getting stuck with Harris. Ford masterstroke! Not worth that 7.5 ish average he is on with the 2.5%! Some soon forget... Oh well as long as Poole are ok I guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, ray c said: I do actually agree with you kings lynn were the better side over 24 meetings by far but unfortunate statistics tell a different story . and for what its worth we never deserved to win luck played a major part Not all Poole fans are the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, poolebolton said: An interview with Fred J was published this morning in Poland. Make of this what you will. First of all, I want to continue to develop as a player, so that my career will constantly move forward. I hope that I will compete a lot - I have scheduled meetings in Denmark, Poland, England, and I also hope that I will not miss juniors' events. It promises to be a very busy year for me. Hopefully most of his UK meetings are at Poole! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, ray c said: I do actually agree with you kings lynn were the better side over 24 meetings by far but unfortunate statistics tell a different story . and for what its worth we never deserved to win luck played a major part We, is that the Royal we ? Luck plays a massive part, sometimes you have to make your own luck, and ride it. Edited December 4, 2018 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, ray c said: I do actually agree with you kings lynn were the better side over 24 meetings by far but unfortunate statistics tell a different story . and for what its worth we never deserved to win luck played a major part That's it ray, you can see it for what it is. Lynn... won the league, ( as In finished Top) Poole rode their luck over 2 legs ( 4 if you count Somerset) and came out on top. The record books will say... Poole were Champions that season. The record books also show that the Wilder and Fury bout ended a draw, and Wilder is World Champion ( well one of them)..... Does it tell the full story ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Hopefully most of his UK meetings are at Poole! Well at least 14 of them. Another 14 will be spread across 6 other tracks!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, poolebolton said: An interview with Fred J was published this morning in Poland. Make of this what you will. First of all, I want to continue to develop as a player, so that my career will constantly move forward. I hope that I will compete a lot - I have scheduled meetings in Denmark, Poland, England, and I also hope that I will not miss juniors' events. It promises to be a very busy year for me. I think he is nailed on to return for Poole. No way Matt will have what is arguably the hottest talent coming out of DK (presently) ride elsewhere. Also still on an attractive GSA of 5.04. Plus had that all important first season (well from July onwards) which gave him an idea of what to expect going forward. When you think about it logically, he COULD be the next Nicki P - NKI - Madsen or K.Bjerre being only 20 (not 21 until next May). In a way pleased he is not doing SWE (although think he wanted to). I think concentrating on POL (now in a Nice 1 team so self promotion) - DK - UK and various Junior Tournaments as well as DK Champ etc will keep him busy. Also with UK being mainly Thur with some Mon (Wolves/BV away x 2) he will not be bogged down doing Pol/Sun - UK/Mon - Swe/Tue - DK/Wed - UK Thur plus individual tournaments such as World U21 etc, would be a hell of a sched for a 20 year old Dane coming through. OK Lambert thrived on it but he was used to all the travelling even as a youngster between UK/Germany and rest of Europe. Having said that Lambert did incredibly well last season. I am all for seeing the young next generation with true potential coming through (especially at Poole).. Even if he is not British ;-) Plenty of the same please, be it Australian's/British or whoever is good with me. The same old same old riders such as Harris/Nicholls will always get team places Prem & Champ as they ride out rest of their careers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Interesting little stat also on Jakobsen. In 13 matches for Poole after he joined in July he weighed in with 16 bonus points. When the team is trying to keep things tight these BP are important. Would have added over 1 point per meeting had BP been incl in GSA calculations. Of course it does help if you have a good team mate also in reserve as a partner :-) Hence an argument maybe to have strong reserves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, semion said: That's it ray, you can see it for what it is. Lynn... won the league, ( as In finished Top) Poole rode their luck over 2 legs ( 4 if you count Somerset) and came out on top. The record books will say... Poole were Champions that season. The record books also show that the Wilder and Fury bout ended a draw, and Wilder is World Champion ( well one of them)..... Does it tell the full story ? KL finished top but they didn't win the league. Poole did and it isn't even a opinion, it is a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 6 hours ago, poolebolton said: He didn’t win the league for us at all. He didn’t go and bang in 15 points a meeting. He has an actual average on 6.91 not 7.5 Also I’m allowed to not be the biggest fan of bomber. And I’m not the biggest fan of bomber. If he hadn't beaten Doyle we wouldn't have even been in the final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: We, is that the Royal we ? Luck plays a massive part, sometimes you have to make your own luck, and ride it. thought it was about you re surfaced have a nice day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 Sometimes a simple news article on Poole website can perhaps be a give away. If a rider was not returning you would have thought this article would not have appeared on the Poole Website 2nd Dec. POOLE'S PLATINUM number one Brady Kurtz returned to competitive racing on Saturday night contesting the New South Wales State Championship at Cowr Would hardly seem to be talking about a rider who won't be back next season. Think most of us know he will be back for sure and his GSA is still decent at 7.05 even if it was uplifted due to removal of Rye scores. Would like to think last season was his initiation into globe trotting around Europe (POL/SWE & UK) so will improve for the experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: KL finished top and it isn't even a opinion, it is a fact. They sure did, over the course of the season I think we both agree that they were without doubt the best team in the League. Poole were just in the right place at the right to be take advantage of Kings Lynn's misfortune over the 2 legs. Edited December 4, 2018 by semion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, semion said: They sure did, over the course of the season I think we both agree that they were without doubt the best team in the League. Poole were just in the right place at the right to be take advantage of Kings Lynn's misfortune over the 2 legs. So much being aired on Poole 2019 Forum as to who won the league last season , it's getting a bit silly. People must be bored to continue this pointless discussion ongoing. We all know KL were the better team on actual league position as were Somerset but ultimately all the record will show is as what is shown on the SGB's own website - Home Page under ROLL OF HONOUR PREMIERSHIP CHAMPIONS: POOLE PREMIERSHIP RUNNERS UP: KINGS LYNN Until the powers that be change anything on the League Format (if they ever would), this is what will be remembered in the records and not who topped the League. If you want evidence of that look at 2010. Poole finished way out on top by 17 points from Wolves and a massive 26 points ahead of Coventry. But Coventry beat Poole in the Play Off Final and all the record show is that Cov were Champs and Poole Runners up. Now can we get back to the subject of Poole 2019 as history is written and behind us now. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 8 hours ago, poolebolton said: Poor Pboro. Getting stuck with Harris. Ford masterstroke! Not worth that 7.5 ish average he is on with the 2.5%! Are you actually a Poole fan? Very disrespectful individual aren't you?? Getting 'stuck'? Nice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 4, 2018 Report Share Posted December 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, hagonshocker said: Are you actually a Poole fan? Very disrespectful individual aren't you?? Getting 'stuck'? Nice Sorry, stuck is a poor choice of words. I just don’t think bomber is the guy to deliver another title. I don’t get why just because I’m a poole fan I have to like Chris Harris. Never really been a fan. But that’s my personal choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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