Poole 2019

[STEVEHOLS54]

37 minutes ago, BLACKHEART said:

With Matt picking the team Josh Grajczonek is nailed on along with Brady and Nicolai. Jakobsen will be back also as Matt said he wanted to use him in 2019. The following team just about fits.

1. Jack Holder 7.39

2. Kacper Woryna 6.36

3. Josh Grajczonek 6.70

4. Nicolai Klindt 6.61

5. Brady Kurtz 7.05

6. Fredrik Jakobsen 5.04

7. James Shanes 3.31

interesting idea's.

Fairly young team with the old men being Klindt at 30 end Dec and Josh G at 29 end Feb. The rest being 20 to 23.

Thing is that whichever way you view it Matt has to lose 2.64 points from last seasons team to get within the limit. But one thing I would question is IF Nick Morris was available at 6.60 would you have him over say Josh or Nicolai ???. I don't know why I keep on about Morris but perhaps its the fact he finished 2017 on 8.87  so proved he has been there and done it. One off season with rumours he might want to move on, and  the all the hype of the A.Dhabi trip draws me to him with a potential to get a 2 point upswing in a settled (hopefully) team amongst other young Aussies on a track he has tended to ride well. I wish Swindon would either announce him or not to put me out of my misery on it.

Josh still worries me as he was so bad for so long but did get it partly together end of season. BUT he will be trying big time to prove himself in POL again after a bad first season where he has now moved team. Will he be going back and forth there constantly like last season at the expense giving up  his Champ season which for me partly hurt his form. Practicing all the time in POL is not like racing in UK.

Klindt did brilliant at times last season and arguably was the reason we won our only 2 matches away at Leic which think was his favourite UK track. He could be getting better later (like a Doyle situation) but still have a small  element of doubt as he could be off at times and was VERY up and down in the Champ despite Work winning the treble. Still think he is best at reserve but may struggle to get in there if our reserves are weakish. Knowing the strength of other teams reserve pairings would certainly help as we know from last season they can make or break your season. For so long Wory/Jakob was the leagues best  reserve pairing.

I don't envy the task Matt has to get within the limit and IF Chris Holder has decided to give UK the heave ho (which none of us know for sure) then its one less asset at his disposal to use.

Personally still not over convinced you would get much more out of Shanes than his GSA.

[ZagarRacing]

The only way Poole are getting Morris is if Rosco gets Kurtz in return.

[STEVEHOLS54]

2 minutes ago, ZagarRacing said:

The only way Poole are getting Morris is if Rosco gets Kurtz in return.

Just saw your post re Swind 2nd signing tomorrow.

Of course Rosco could kill off any rumour tomorrow if his local Swindon living Aussie was announced. If it's such an easy decision he should have agreed if living locally ;-)

[ray c]

james is worth a place on excitement alone but then would he want to ride for poole after the way he was treated last season he improved at Sheffield and Birmingham . who knows

[poolebolton]

10 minutes ago, ray c said:

james is worth a place on excitement alone but then would he want to ride for poole after the way he was treated last season he improved at Sheffield and Birmingham . who knows

I don't think he was treated that bad . It wasnt a Kyle Newman esque break up. 

Ive spoken to James and he said that he would happily go back and getting away was the best thing for him at such a young age. He is a 5 point rider in the champ and was proably the 2nd best rider in NL all season. 

[STEVEHOLS54]

1 hour ago, poolebolton said:

I don't think he was treated that bad . It wasnt a Kyle Newman esque break up. 

Ive spoken to James and he said that he would happily go back and getting away was the best thing for him at such a young age. He is a 5 point rider in the champ and was proably the 2nd best rider in NL all season. 

There is some logic in the Shanes possible signing if Matt is tight on budget.

He will only just turn 22 as 2019 season starts - so still young - he is on a low GSA but I would not expect a large increase as with say a Woryna/Jakobsen in that position - he is local so no expensive flights or accommodation as he also stores his bikes I believe at home - is normally well prepared as he works in tandem with preparing his grassrtack/longtrack equip. I am sure he would not cost as much as a foreign youngster who anyway would be on a 4 or 5 min and that's without all the expense involved with no guarantees anyway.

If Matt is having to trim 2.64 from last seasons team anyway then you could do worse although would love to know what other teams reserve plans are.

Would also not surprise me to see him also ride in Champ for either Birmingham who he rode for in NL and who look certain to come up as not mentioned in latest BSPA National league news after their AGM or maybe even Eastbourne who are also moving to Champ so not too far to travel. Having said that his Grass/Longtrack weekend commitments on the Continent may determine which Champ team he goes to.

[STEVEHOLS54]

I see Todd Kurtz has signed for Somerset in Champ.

Only mention it as I am sure Todd & Brady stay at one of Middlo's places when in UK and thought Todd also mechanics sometimes for Brady. Makes sense if its close to their UK abode.

Perhaps a positive sign for Brady rejoining Poole (not that I have any doubt on that score anyway).

As a footnote - If Matt is on a tight budget he could maybe consider Todd on approx 4.43 as a reserve  - would again be cheap if staying in Middlo supplied accom and no expensive travelling costs. Don't see much scope for improvement though as has been over here riding for 9 years and 26 now, Would prefer an improver like Pickering on 4.58 - is 22 tomorrow - improved year on year in his 2 years in UK at Edin - was also mentioned briefly by Matt last season when he was looking to shake things up after the shaky early season. I think he has better scope to improve. Just a thought ;-)

Edited November 29, 2018 by STEVEHOLS54
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[Aces51]

Stevehols74, you seem very concerned about Poole having to lose 2.64. Belle Vue have to lose even more, 2.84, despite winning nothing. It just shows how unlucky we were with injuries at the business end of the season but I've not seen anybody constantly mentioning it. That's how it goes sometimes, you just have to get on with it and only mention it if we lose to Poole. 

[STEVEHOLS54]

3 minutes ago, Aces51 said:

Stevehols74, you seem very concerned about Poole having to lose 2.64. Belle Vue have to lose even more, 2.84, despite winning nothing. It just shows how unlucky we were with injuries at the business end of the season but I've not seen anybody constantly mentioning it. That's how it goes sometimes, you just have to get on with it and only mention it if we lose to Poole. 

Wish I was Stevehols74 Aces51 as I would be 20 years younger - Thanks for the compliment though 

I only mention it as some of my fellow Poole contributors have been commenting on trying to maintain most/all of the team for 2019, which in my opinion was fortunate in a number of ways to win the play offs. I would not expect lightning to strike in the same place twice over those matches (lets pls not go there on the various incidents and rider eligibility as its all history now). The team also only won 2 matches away against the bottom team Leicester (no longer in Prem) mainly on the back of Klindts efforts as was his favourite track.

Anyway the facts  remain we have to shed at least 2 riders and maybe even 3 to get the right mix for 2019. Something has to change hence if you read my other contributions you will see why I  have eliminated some of the said riders to get withing the 42.50 limit with my ideas of a team. Hence the reason we call this tread Poole 2019 

Its already a boring close season so far, so until we get some positive (or negative) news we can continue to play name the team for 2019. Something indeed BV fans also have to play with having to shed 2.84 points from last season which again a thankless task.

[STEVEHOLS54]

9 minutes ago, BLACKHEART said:

Not going to lie. Only reason why Shanes is in the 1-7 is because I ran out of points to play with.

Can see your point but its the old juggling act and not really much out there in that low GSA range who can see competing. At least James has had some experience of it and has now got more experience via Sheff & Birm last season.

If we know some of the teams will have fairly weak reserve pairings it would also help give an idea what he may be up against in some of the races. Until then its all guess work.

[The Weasel]

2 hours ago, ZagarRacing said:

The only way Poole are getting Morris is if Rosco gets Kurtz in return.

Or if Ford's tapped him up in Abu Dahbi. 

[Gavan]

Shanes was unlucky to lose out last season and could easily slot in at number 7. For me Poole need to look the top end.

Poole won many matches last season by their reserves totally out scoring the opposition reserves because Woryna/Worrall/Jacobsen were in those positions. Jacobsen will now be the main reserve and Woryna will have to step up markedly in the main body

Kurtz is a no brainier and so I think is Klindt

Kurtz

Klindt 

Woryna

Jacobsen 

Those are the only 4 riders I can see going back to Poole , Harris is to bigger risk on his inflated average that can only go one way.

Can see Jack Holder being back and maybe Batchelor 

Poole need a big hitting number one but who would come? 

Poole got lucky winning the league last season and now have to lose points..... could be a tricky winter trying to get it right 

[poolebolton]

I see 2 team options 

1. J. Holder= 7.39 

2. Woryna= 6.36

3. Josh G= 6.70 

4. Morris=6.6 (Klindt is possible) or anyone up to 6.72 

5. Kurtz= 7.05

6. Fred= 5.04

7. Shanes= 3.24 

42.38 

 

Team 2 

1. Batch= 7.69 

2. Woryna= 6.36

3. Kurtz= 7.05 

4. Wright= 5.2 or anyone up to 5.73 (maybe Kacper G if he is on that 5.51 average) 

5. J.Holder= 7.39 

6. Fred= 5.04 

7. Shanes= 3.24 

41.97 

 

[Pirates Of Poole]

1 hour ago, Gavan said:

Shanes was unlucky to lose out last season and could easily slot in at number 7. For me Poole need to look the top end.

Poole won many matches last season by their reserves totally out scoring the opposition reserves because Woryna/Worrall/Jacobsen were in those positions. Jacobsen will now be the main reserve and Woryna will have to step up markedly in the main body

Kurtz is a no brainier and so I think is Klindt

Kurtz

Klindt 

Woryna

Jacobsen 

Those are the only 4 riders I can see going back to Poole , Harris is to bigger risk on his inflated average that can only go one way.

Can see Jack Holder being back and maybe Batchelor 

Poole need a big hitting number one but who would come? 

Poole got lucky winning the league last season and now have to lose points..... could be a tricky winter trying to get it right 

I agree, the first 4 I can see return will be Brady, Nico and Josh although I don’t feel he is the best choice with  better options available, it’s clear Matt has a soft spot for Josh, I can see them being joined by Jack who could very well start the season as number 1 which is a major concern. We have had issues over the past few seasons with out a clear number 1 & that does need addressing. The remaining 3 could be interesting and finances will play a major role in that. 

Edited November 29, 2018 by Pirates Of Poole

[Hamish McRaker]

Matt Ford is on Have I Got News For You tonight!

[Simonh]

11 minutes ago, Hamish McRaker said:

Matt Ford is on Have I Got News For You tonight!

Matt FordE is on tonight, sadly knows little about speedway but is a comedian. Perhaps thinking about it a BSPA rep?

[Sidney the robin]

J.Holder, Kurtz,Woryna,Jacobsen Shanes would be the five i would base my team around be interesting to see what Matt does.

[poolebolton]

2 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said:

J.Holder, Kurtz,Woryna,Jacobsen Shanes would be the five i would base my team around be interesting to see what Matt does.

Add Josh G and Nic and your done. 

Edited November 30, 2018 by poolebolton

[STEVEHOLS54]

8 minutes ago, poolebolton said:

Add Josh G and Nic and your done. 

Interesting to see Morris was not the second announcement this morning from Swindon.

Maybe Rosco just playing mind games with us .

IF he was available who would you omit from say Klindt/Josh if Matt even wanted him ??

[Sidney the robin]

43 minutes ago, poolebolton said:

Add Josh G and Nic and your done. 

 

43 minutes ago, poolebolton said:

Add Josh G and Nic and your done. 

Those two not for me but with the five i named that would be a youthful exciting team could Tungate be an option?