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21 hours ago, Starman2006 said:

It will be. Ideally John could do with a bit more time and a decent bit of rain. But nobody knows the track better than him. Hopefully this new stuff will bind a lot better. In an ideal world this needs doing mid season and in October. It should ride an awful lot better. John was also responsable for the track in the 0-4 World cup at poole. It was a shame he retired in 0-12..

Well there's plenty of thunderstorms kicking around on Monday so....

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I know nothing about track preparation just a load of shale on the floor stuck together somehow and blokes race around on bikes like they do at the millenium stadium for the Grand Prix and if i am not mistaken that seems ok i may be wrong but as that is a temporary track just loads of trucks turn up dump their load and it is stuck together why can't Poole do the same,what is so difficult if you can turn a rugby ground into a racing track what is stopping Wimborne Road from having the same, 

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8 hours ago, Sunliner said:

I know nothing about track preparation just a load of shale on the floor stuck together somehow and blokes race around on bikes like they do at the millenium stadium for the Grand Prix and if i am not mistaken that seems ok i may be wrong but as that is a temporary track just loads of trucks turn up dump their load and it is stuck together why can't Poole do the same,what is so difficult if you can turn a rugby ground into a racing track what is stopping Wimborne Road from having the same, 

I mean in fairness they have down the years had difficulty with the temporary tracks rutting and holes appearing, but in recent seasons seem to have got producing a decent racetrack down to an art - but very different material used for the indoor tracks to that of one that lives outside exposed to the elements - the material they use for the temp indoor tracks wouldn’t work in the same way in a permanent outdoor setting.

i’m not excusing poole’s track it’s frankly been atrocious for years and years now and could easily have been made better, but don’t think the temporary indoor tracks are a good or fair comparison it’s quite different 

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8 hours ago, Sunliner said:

I know nothing about track preparation just a load of shale on the floor stuck together somehow and blokes race around on bikes like they do at the millenium stadium for the Grand Prix and if i am not mistaken that seems ok i may be wrong but as that is a temporary track just loads of trucks turn up dump their load and it is stuck together why can't Poole do the same,what is so difficult if you can turn a rugby ground into a racing track what is stopping Wimborne Road from having the same, 

The issue is the base. Cardiffs track is laid on a hard flat surface. The Wimborne road track has an uneven base so it doesn’t matter how much shale is pit on, it doesn’t solve this issue. 

We’ll soon see if the track problems have been sold on Thursday night.  

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36 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

The issue is the base. Cardiffs track is laid on a hard flat surface. The Wimborne road track has an uneven base so it doesn’t matter how much shale is pit on, it doesn’t solve this issue. 

We’ll soon see if the track problems have been sold on Thursday night.  

What he said.

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42 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

The issue is the base. Cardiffs track is laid on a hard flat surface. The Wimborne road track has an uneven base so it doesn’t matter how much shale is pit on, it doesn’t solve this issue. 

We’ll soon see if the track problems have been sold on Thursday night.  

So 10 years ago when the Poole track was good , wasnt the base uneven then? Or has the base become uneven over the years.

Fact remains the track is poor bordering on dangerous and hopefully this week it will be sorted

Poole thumped Belle Vue earlier in the season and i would expect and 18 point win in this one

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8 minutes ago, Gavan said:

So 10 years ago when the Poole track was good , wasnt the base uneven then? Or has the base become uneven over the years.

Fact remains the track is poor bordering on dangerous and hopefully this week it will be sorted

Poole thumped Belle Vue earlier in the season and i would expect and 18 point win in this one

You always think Poole will win easily so you can say we failed if we don't win by a wide margin. 

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1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

You always think Poole will win easily so you can say we failed if we don't win by a wide margin. 

Nope never say that

I said Poole would get beat easily at Ipswich and I was right

I actually also said Poole would get beat easily at Belle Vue and I was badly wrong

I said you would win at Wolves by 4 and it was 2.

You thumped Belle Vue earlier on the season and they are bad travellers. Poole are in a bit of form trying to make top 4 and would expect a comfortable win in this. Let’s be fair every team should be looking to win at home 

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2 hours ago, 89buttons said:

I mean in fairness they have down the years had difficulty with the temporary tracks rutting and holes appearing, but in recent seasons seem to have got producing a decent racetrack down to an art - but very different material used for the indoor tracks to that of one that lives outside exposed to the elements - the material they use for the temp indoor tracks wouldn’t work in the same way in a permanent outdoor setting.

i’m not excusing poole’s track it’s frankly been atrocious for years and years now and could easily have been made better, but don’t think the temporary indoor tracks are a good or fair comparison it’s quite different 

Racing on temporary tracks in the GP’s has got better, let’s face it it couldn’t get much worse. However in saying that I can count on 1 hand the amount of decent tracks they have prepared because they mostly still rut up (totally expected) and it’s the ruts that cause mistakes that sees another rider taking advantage. Take the opening round this year, Freddie had it all in the bag until he hit the rut on the 2nd bend that caught quite a few riders out. Until they can produce a track that rides like any decent track they will only offer up mediocre racing at best. Like I have said there have been the odd few that have been superb. But there appears no consistency of replicating that every time.

As for Poole, the base problem has been there for several years now and it’s been temporarily attempted to be fixed each time with the result the same every time - it usually returns to the same problem. 

Only a close season of relaying will sort this issue so this will be yet another wasted repair job. I hope I’m wrong. I’ve always rated Poole as one of the better racing tracks till about 8 years ago. 

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3 hours ago, Gavan said:

So 10 years ago when the Poole track was good , wasnt the base uneven then? Or has the base become uneven over the years.

Fact remains the track is poor bordering on dangerous and hopefully this week it will be sorted

Poole thumped Belle Vue earlier in the season and i would expect and 18 point win in this one

The base has deteriorated over the years would be my guess Gavan. The work it has had in the past hasn't been good enough, otherwise the track would be ok now.

The base has to be right before you bung tonnes of shale on it and try and pack it down, otherwise the problems will re appear. Lets hope the jobs a good un this time, for the riders, fans and speedway in general.

 

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1 hour ago, Bald Bloke said:

The base has deteriorated over the years would be my guess Gavan. The work it has had in the past hasn't been good enough, otherwise the track would be ok now.

The base has to be right before you bung tonnes of shale on it and try and pack it down, otherwise the problems will re appear. Lets hope the jobs a good un this time, for the riders, fans and speedway in general.

 

Nothing wrong with the base.

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2 hours ago, stevebrum said:

Racing on temporary tracks in the GP’s has got better, let’s face it it couldn’t get much worse. However in saying that I can count on 1 hand the amount of decent tracks they have prepared because they mostly still rut up (totally expected) and it’s the ruts that cause mistakes that sees another rider taking advantage. Take the opening round this year, Freddie had it all in the bag until he hit the rut on the 2nd bend that caught quite a few riders out. Until they can produce a track that rides like any decent track they will only offer up mediocre racing at best. Like I have said there have been the odd few that have been superb. But there appears no consistency of replicating that every time.

As for Poole, the base problem has been there for several years now and it’s been temporarily attempted to be fixed each time with the result the same every time - it usually returns to the same problem. 

Only a close season of relaying will sort this issue so this will be yet another wasted repair job. I hope I’m wrong. I’ve always rated Poole as one of the better racing tracks till about 8 years ago. 

Nothing wrong with the base.

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