foreverblue Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Gavan said: I just dont see Middlo as the greatest manager thats all its called my opinion. He has had the best financial backing over the years at Poole and has been able to change riders as and when Poole need to. In my opinion Rosco and Adams have proved they can do it at other clubs with less resources. Lets see how Middlo can do at a different club is all im saying. Poole fans will quite rightly feel he is the best because he has managed their club but i think any manager could have managed Poole..............he was awful as Team GB boss. Don't think you can hold his GB record against him, the only time we had a chance was in 2004 when we could have won, all the riders always pulled out their best for Middlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Gavan said: I just dont see Middlo as the greatest manager thats all its called my opinion. He has had the best financial backing over the years at Poole and has been able to change riders as and when Poole need to. In my opinion Rosco and Adams have proved they can do it at other clubs with less resources. Lets see how Middlo can do at a different club is all im saying. Poole fans will quite rightly feel he is the best because he has managed their club but i think any manager could have managed Poole..............he was awful as Team GB boss. You really are some sad deeluded idiot. Small wonder you are hated so much on this forum with comments like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Season starting with the usual verbal abuse why cant some people just except other people's opinions oh i forgot this is the poole thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) Well in other news. Jack Holder, Nic Klindt and Chris Holder(sure he will be in pits this year). Ride in Poland at Toruń in a pre season match. Edited March 16, 2019 by poolebolton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Starman2006 said: You really are some sad deeluded idiot. Small wonder you are hated so much on this forum with comments like that. Give it a rest Im sad and deluded because i dont believe Middlo is as good as Rosco or Adams You need to understand what an opinion is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Gavan said: Give it a rest Im sad and deluded because i dont believe Middlo is as good as Rosco or Adams You need to understand what an opinion is It goes both ways. A lot of people say Sir Alex is the greatest manger of all time. (Yes, he did manage more than 1 team) but the success was with 1 team that was the richest and had the best players in the world. You still have to win. And I think some of 8 prem titles middlo has been pretty impressive. Yes, 2013 was quite easy but 2015 he kept the side together after the shock. I do get the argument though. But I would certainly not describe Adams and Rosco as great if middlo isn’t described as great. In 20 years time people remember championships more than anything else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, poolebolton said: It goes both ways. A lot of people say Sir Alex is the greatest manger of all time. (Yes, he did manage more than 1 team) but the success was with 1 team that was the richest and had the best players in the world. You still have to win. And I think some of 8 prem titles middlo has been pretty impressive. Yes, 2013 was quite easy but 2015 he kept the side together after the shock. I do get the argument though. But I would certainly not describe Adams and Rosco as great if middlo isn’t described as great. In 20 years time people remember championships more than anything else. How many changes each season has Neil made to win the league over the years just asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, ray c said: How many changes each season has Neil made to win the league over the years just asking I wonder if Matt was the one finding the riders and putting the team/changes together. I don't know, but Matt certainly knows the rule book inside out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 48 minutes ago, Gavan said: Give it a rest Im sad and deluded because i dont believe Middlo is as good as Rosco or Adams You need to understand what an opinion is If anyone agrees with you or not it matters not. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. In my opinion I believe Neil has done a great job. But that's my thoughts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Where would you place Neil Street in all this, in his time @ Poole & prior to that @ Weymouth Neil could spot tallent a mile off & with the rider willing to do so made novices & average riders into top riders & superstars................ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, geoff58 said: oh yes at poole with poole riders loram/nicholls/havelock lol Yes and we get accused of not having British riders.Rico and Floppy pulled all the stops out too. Edited March 16, 2019 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, poolebolton said: It goes both ways. A lot of people say Sir Alex is the greatest manger of all time. (Yes, he did manage more than 1 team) but the success was with 1 team that was the richest and had the best players in the world. You still have to win. And I think some of 8 prem titles middlo has been pretty impressive. Yes, 2013 was quite easy but 2015 he kept the side together after the shock. I do get the argument though. But I would certainly not describe Adams and Rosco as great if middlo isn’t described as great. In 20 years time people remember championships more than anything else. I love it when Alex Ferguson's reign is described as being easy as the richest club. The majority of the winning under Ferguson's reign was with players coming through the ranks of the club which is where the club's wealth came from. For me, Middleditch has just been Ford's puppet. Ford says who rides for him, who's sacked, which replacements are needed etc. Middleditch for Poole is exactly the same as a team leader / supervisor in business, powerless in hiring and firing and just there to fire up the staff employed by someone else. Matt Ford is the reason and only reason for Poole's success. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 Jack Holder=9+1/5 Chris Holder= 11+1/4 Nic Klindt= 6/5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigcatdiary Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: I wonder if Matt was the one finding the riders and putting the team/changes together. I don't know, but Matt certainly knows the rule book inside out Anyone with half a brain knows Ford is behind the Poole success, who do you think was texting Middlo during the matches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, ray c said: How many changes each season has Neil made to win the league over the years just asking You seem to be trying to demean his achievements because we made changes to the team. Edited March 16, 2019 by foreverblue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 I'm no Middlo fan, but you can't argue about his passion for Poole Speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Is that relevant? Of course it's relevent would we have won the league with the seven we started with last season no and many season prior to that as well i am not knocking Neil it's just the way I see it Edited March 16, 2019 by ray c 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted March 16, 2019 Report Share Posted March 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, ray c said: Of course it's relevent would we have won the league with the seven we started with last season no and many season prior to that as well i am not knocking Neil it's just the way I see it It reads like you are knocking Neil, he has given Poole amazing service both as a rider and a manager. If the riders aren't performing then you have to change them, probably joint decisions with Matt Ford, i expect changes this season too, the team we have i don't think is good enough.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, Gavan said: I just dont see Middlo as the greatest manager thats all its called my opinion. He has had the best financial backing over the years at Poole and has been able to change riders as and when Poole need to. In my opinion Rosco and Adams have proved they can do it at other clubs with less resources. Lets see how Middlo can do at a different club is all im saying. Poole fans will quite rightly feel he is the best because he has managed their club but i think any manager could have managed Poole..............he was awful as Team GB boss. No issue with you having your own opinion, but many of your previous opinions have been supported by your 'facts and figures'. I'd just like to know what they are to support your opinion about Middlo in comparison to Rosco or Adams?! (Incidentally if you believe Rosco and Adams have achieved what they've done without some very strong financial assistance from their respective senior promoters then you are sadly mistaken!) ps. I'm not too up with Adams managerial career, but where else has he proved himself other than Wolves? pps. You might wish to ask your mate Mark Loram how he would rate or compare the three!! Edited March 17, 2019 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: No issue with you having your own opinion, but many of your previous opinions have been supported by your 'facts and figures'. I'd just like to know what they are to support your opinion about Middlo in comparison to Rosco or Adams?! (Incidentally if you believe Rosco and Adams have achieved what they've done without some very strong financial assistance from their respective senior promoters then you are sadly mistaken!) ps. I'm not too up with Adams managerial career, but where else has he proved himself other than Wolves? pps. You might wish to ask your mate Mark Loram how he would rate or compare the three!! The best person Mark ever worked under was Colin Hill but yes Mark got on fine with Middlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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