Skidder1 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I thought we were supposedly vulnerable in heats 13 and 15 in 2018 - yet not only did we make the play-offs but we won the Premiership trophy too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I know its a different league, but nothing but positives coming out of Eastbourne Eagles . Read their latest website release re new major sponsorship's and more exciting announcements (their words) to come out. Seems some on the wealthier South Coast resorts businesses are prepared to invest locally in their club. Which begs the question how come an affluent area like Dorset has not had a major team sponsor come forth for Poole. One can't help but think that the fact Ford is looking to get out of the biz is linked somehow, similar to those 2/3 companies who have chosen not to renew sponsorship. Before the usual sponsor jumps on the wagon, yes I know some local companies do sponsor, but the fact is more seem to be leaving with little to none joining. I wonder how many Prem teams will not have a team sponsor this year. One maybe ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 I would venture to suggest that Poole's current sponsors probably put them on a par with most if not all Premiership clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: I thought we were supposedly vulnerable in heats 13 and 15 in 2018 - yet not only did we make the play-offs but we won the Premiership trophy too. We may not have the obvious big guns, but I am sure we will get our share of points in those 2 heats and sometimes its not always about 5-1's. Getting 3-3 can be equally important especially away from home. Anyway Matt is well known for shaking things up if it's not working, although this season could be different depending on club's situation at the time. Hopefully he won't have to but you can never legislate for both injuries and or loss of form, irrespective of how a team looks on paper in January. As for the Prem trophy. Yes we did but with an incredible chunk of luck and good fortune due to injuries and worse possible time for Somerset and K.Lynn. I think we used up most if not all of our 9 lives during last season ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: I would venture to suggest that Poole's current sponsors probably put them on a par with most if not all Premiership clubs. I was waiting for that :-) I don't doubt that Poole has some good sponsors. However the loss of the main team sponsor and at least 2 other regular one's is a concern. Can we stop kidding ourselves Skidder. In any other season I think Matt would have snapped up both Woryna & Jakobsen. The fact remains money is tight at Poole and Matt has had to reign in expenditure for 2019. The combination of major team sponsor loss (plus the others) and no doubt trying to balance the books for a possible sale must have an effect. The facts remain we may be the only club without a Major Team Sponsor. Yes we have others but we should do. Dorset is one of the most affluent areas of the UK, and historically in the modern era of top flight speedway in UK, Poole have been the main team. Yet we have not attracted a main sponsor for 2019. I can't even think of any football club in any of the 4 main leagues in England who doesn't have a main team sponsor. The obvious question is why when it is such a rich area. You have to think that the possible departure of the most successful Promoter of the last 15 years has to have something to do with it, unless big biz locally just doesn't want to have such a major association with the sport down in Dorset. All we need now is another embarrassing announcement that the team will be in race bibs again to compound it all. It is wrong imo that a club like Poole does not have team kevlars. What message does that send the sport around Europe. Important ??? - For you maybe not, but its as much about image and looking professional . Let's hope local biz digs deep if Ford can't afford it again which wouldn't surprise me after least season and his bemoaning of the situation before a wheel is turned. If he or they don't invest in kevlars then it sends it's own message in my book. Of course Matt may be thinking of the revolving door scenario again next season after the rider changes for various reasons this. Fortunately most if not all other Prem teams and even Champ teams don't think that way when kitting out their riders. Hope I am wrong and team kevlars are purchased somehow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: I thought we were supposedly vulnerable in heats 13 and 15 in 2018 - yet not only did we make the play-offs but we won the Premiership trophy too. Yes we were we only won it by making changes you know it and everybody else does as well your just stirring the pot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 7 hours ago, Supersub said: It doesn't look as if we will have a consistent No 1 for 2019 going by Aussie Championship results to date. Neither J Holder or Kurtz are in top 3 and only Masters & Morris of any repute are below them. Lidsey looks a good prospect. Looks like we shall have to rely on all round strenth but as ony 7 teams we should make play offs! I would not hold to much bearing on the Aussie form, apart from Fricke who should win it the rest can all beat each other on any given day.For most of the Aussies it is a working break, they will do there best and the racing is good for there conditioning and race fitness but it is is not really life or death then they are all ready to rumble again in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 53 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: I was waiting for that :-) I don't doubt that Poole has some good sponsors. However the loss of the main team sponsor and at least 2 other regular one's is a concern. Can we stop kidding ourselves Skidder. In any other season I think Matt would have snapped up both Woryna & Jakobsen. The fact remains money is tight at Poole and Matt has had to reign in expenditure for 2019. The combination of major team sponsor loss (plus the others) and no doubt trying to balance the books for a possible sale must have an effect. The facts remain we may be the only club without a Major Team Sponsor. Yes we have others but we should do. Dorset is one of the most affluent areas of the UK, and historically in the modern era of top flight speedway in UK, Poole have been the main team. Yet we have not attracted a main sponsor for 2019. I can't even think of any football club in any of the 4 main leagues in England who doesn't have a main team sponsor. The obvious question is why when it is such a rich area. You have to think that the possible departure of the most successful Promoter of the last 15 years has to have something to do with it, unless big biz locally just doesn't want to have such a major association with the sport down in Dorset. All we need now is another embarrassing announcement that the team will be in race bibs again to compound it all. It is wrong imo that a club like Poole does not have team kevlars. What message does that send the sport around Europe. Important ??? - For you maybe not, but its as much about image and looking professional . Let's hope local biz digs deep if Ford can't afford it again which wouldn't surprise me after least season and his bemoaning of the situation before a wheel is turned. If he or they don't invest in kevlars then it sends it's own message in my book. Of course Matt may be thinking of the revolving door scenario again next season after the rider changes for various reasons this. Fortunately most if not all other Prem teams and even Champ teams don't think that way when kitting out their riders. Hope I am wrong and team kevlars are purchased somehow. No doubt Ford wanting out is probably the main reason for the sponsor situation. I thought the bib thing was poor from Poole in 2018, although they didn't look bad tbh, only Woryna looked out of place. The jolly up for 8-9 ? at the end of the season would of cost much more than the kevlars would have, but we don't know all the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: I was waiting for that :-) I don't doubt that Poole has some good sponsors. However the loss of the main team sponsor and at least 2 other regular one's is a concern. Can we stop kidding ourselves Skidder. In any other season I think Matt would have snapped up both Woryna & Jakobsen. The fact remains money is tight at Poole and Matt has had to reign in expenditure for 2019. The combination of major team sponsor loss (plus the others) and no doubt trying to balance the books for a possible sale must have an effect. Money is tight everywhere Steve, if they told the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 2 hours ago, ray c said: Yes we were we only won it by making changes you know it and everybody else does as well your just stirring the pot Nothing wrong with making changes if we have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgy Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 3 hours ago, ray c said: Yes we were we only won it by making changes you know it and everybody else does as well your just stirring the pot Correct decision then. It’s never been a secret. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, foreverblue said: othing wrong with making changes if we have to. No I guess. But sometime riders will clock on and give Poole a miss in the end..Bit like a prison, at Poole your just a number Edited January 8, 2019 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 10 hours ago, ray c said: Yes we were we only won it by making changes you know it and everybody else does as well your just stirring the pot And by having the ref firmly on your side and MPT's injury.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 9 hours ago, foreverblue said: Nothing wrong with making changes if we have to. never said there was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Money is tight everywhere Steve, if they told the truth. Ford running a tight ship is a good thing ,he has assembled a decent side within a budget he should be applauded. Edited January 9, 2019 by Sidney the robin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, ray c said: never said there was And if we have to make changes again I have no problem with that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 (edited) I see klindt whats to be no 1 next season Edited January 9, 2019 by ray c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: No I guess. But sometime riders will clock on and give Poole a miss in the end..Bit like a prison, at Poole your just a number I don't think any rider would do that. Not many riders are not giving will give Poole or any other team a miss because they got sacked previously. I believe there is a rule that a sacked rider cannot return the next season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, foreverblue said: And if we have to make changes again I have no problem with that either. Nor has matt ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booey boy Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 2 hours ago, ray c said: never said there was Come on you only won the league because of injurys to other teams teams not because of changes but that's how it goes sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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