scottyfan Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Gavan said: He rode at reserve last season and is now in the main body can’t see how that can bring about an improvement in average Richie rode ONE league match (v Wolves at home) at reserve scoring 8+2 and 4 play off matches (that don’t count towards averages) at reserve....The rest of the time he rode in the 1-5, putting in some useful scores, so not as though he rode at reserve all season as your post is hinting at!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Interesting that a few contributors are writing Poole off as play off contenders even before a wheel is turned from April. Must admit find it quite a refreshing change that some are saying we are nowhere near the best team named. It kind of lifts the pressure a bit for a change . I am quite happy we have a team which has got both experienced riders who hopefully will give steady performance plus potentially exciting young riders who have so much scope to improve. Additionally we have reserves who can switch in and out of the main team during the season with their replacements also capable of being strong reserves. Of course there are other teams with what on paper looks perhaps stronger top 4 riders, but some are weaker further down. Hopefully things will even out and we end up with an exciting League even if we are short of World Class quality. From what I have seen from some of the SWE League racing, some of these top guys don't always perform that great week in and out, and makes me feel at times they use these midweek meetings more to keep up racing practice for the beloved POL league who are their main paymasters as well as for things like the SGP/SEC. I think its a decent team. Excellent top 2, solid 2nd strings and good reserves. Lots of potential improvements as well. For me both BV and Poole look very similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gavan said: He rode at reserve last season and is now in the main body can’t see how that can bring about an improvement in average He was riding at three or four until the end of the season. There look to be one or two possible weak links, but I don’t think Worrall is one of them. His 2018 average was only a shade lower than Woryna, is British (so presumably has a discount), and wont cost as much. The same goes for Klindt, who averaged a pretty decent 7.38 last season. Edited December 23, 2018 by Nellie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 23, 2018 Report Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Thats because you dont go to Poole. Funny that.. I think Worrall will struggle to match his average or improve it You then say ‘that’s because I don’t go to Poole’ What weird planet are you on? Because I don’t go to Poole I can’t have that opinion I think Kurtz and NBJ will improve theirs...... is that ok as I’m actually saying Poole riders will do ok.......or because I don’t go to Poole I can’t give an opinion I don’t go to Swindon but my opinion is Adam Ellis will improve his. Try the kiddies section might be more on your level! Edited December 23, 2018 by Gavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 How will Richie not even match his average when it is lower than what he finished on last season with the British reduction!! As everyone else has said Gavan, Richie was only reserve last part of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Starman2006 said: Thats because you dont go to Poole. Funny that.. With respect, firstly, do YOU go to any other tracks that you often waffle on about ? Secondly, you're both boneheads and have too much time on your hands. Thirdly, as a homeless man said to me and a few work friends tonight in London, Merry Christmas you fkin idiots. Cheers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 If as expected Klindt is announced today why have we got NBJ when we could have got Jake Allen? Was he too expensive or was it just Ipswich got him first? Surely Ford doesn't think NBJ is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 13 hours ago, Starman2006 said: They will do Steve, and they will be praying we do no good, but i have news for them And you seem to write off every other team in the league,as you appear to say Poole will win it again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Gavan said: I think Worrall will struggle to match his average or improve it You then say ‘that’s because I don’t go to Poole’ What weird planet are you on? Because I don’t go to Poole I can’t have that opinion I think Kurtz and NBJ will improve theirs...... is that ok as I’m actually saying Poole riders will do ok.......or because I don’t go to Poole I can’t give an opinion I don’t go to Swindon but my opinion is Adam Ellis will improve his. Try the kiddies section might be more on your level! After watching Adam everyweek in 2018 he has improved greatly he to will up his average.Last year his figures were very false as he had a few falls when in winning positions so his average should be higher another bad mistake by Ford to let him go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 I dont think its a bad team by any means, only behind Peterborough and Wolves in the teams announced so far. Lets face it, you would have to be extremely poor to not make the play offs, and then its just a lottery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 9 hours ago, lisa-colette said: How will Richie not even match his average when it is lower than what he finished on last season with the British reduction!! As everyone else has said Gavan, Richie was only reserve last part of the season. Its all about opinion In the Poole team i think that Josh, Worrall and Klindt may not match their average or improve it. I think Kurtz and NBJ and probably Covatti will improve theirs I think Jack Holder is inbetween in my eyes Its just when you get a (use designated word) like Starman telling me i cant form an opinion as i dont got to Poole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Shovlar Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: If as expected Klindt is announced today why have we got NBJ when we could have got Jake Allen? Was he too expensive or was it just Ipswich got him first? Surely Ford doesn't think NBJ is better. Allen priced himself out of a team berth. Asked for too much money. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 1 hour ago, foreverblue said: If as expected Klindt is announced today why have we got NBJ when we could have got Jake Allen? Was he too expensive or was it just Ipswich got him first? Surely Ford doesn't think NBJ is better. I also thought we were going to use club assets looks like there are three riders there that are not ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Allen priced himself out of a team berth. Asked for too much money. is that fact or are you guessing if that's the case I reckon poole speedway is not in a healthy state ? Edited December 24, 2018 by ray c 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 31 minutes ago, Gavan said: Its all about opinion In the Poole team i think that Josh, Worrall and Klindt may not match their average or improve it. I think Kurtz and NBJ and probably Covatti will improve theirs I think Jack Holder is in between in my eyes Its just when you get a (use designated word) like Starman telling me i cant form an opinion as i dont got to Poole Honestly Gav. When you don't allow yourself to get wound up you indeed post sensible and fairly informed opinion. Some of my fellow form contributors may forget your thoughts from last season where some thought Poole would wipe the floor with the opposition with the named team, yet you warned of caution with some of the fairly untried riders like Woryna/Spaniak on UK tracks. Also the fact that Brady was not a proven number one. Keep the opinions/posts coming mate as there is a lot of sense in your comments about riders. Don't disagree on Josh & Klindt but would be surprised and disappointed if Richie doesnt improve his av IF he is likely to swing in and out of reserve where there may be some easier points available. His GSA does not lie. It is what it is, but for me the deciding factors in his favour will hopefully be 1) His new biz is now set up and apparently going well and 2) Going in and out of the reserve berth if one or both reserves improve their av. On that final note for this festive period can I wish all you guys & Girls a Very Happy Christmas and happy Forum Posting for 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, ray c said: is that fact or are you guessing if that's the case I reckon poole speedway is not in a healthy state ? Maybe we will never know. I thought Allen would be nailed on based on the Somerset connection and Ford/May get on well (I think). Getting Holder back and Covatti led me to think Allen was the obvious step as UK based in Summer plus already had his Champ side sorted. Factor in he is an Aussie and many believe a possible emerging talent made it seem obvious. You would have thought it was obvious, but Matt did indicate one rider was asking too much, but suppose we won't find out if it was Allen or one of the now signed team ??? We all know the finance is not great so MAYBE that was a factor in final decision. Matt is the master of positive PR so won't linger on riders we didn't sign, instead playing up the positives who have. Someone like NBJ could be a surprise when viewing some of his scores from last season incl those impressive guest appearances for Leicester at the season end. Having Howe looking after him in UK could also be a plus but only time will tell us that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said: Allen priced himself out of a team berth. Asked for too much money. And the award for fabrication goes to........ He didnt want to much money but Ipswich got in first and he was happy with what was on offer and joined us Not every rider dreams of riding for Poole and when they dont sign for Poole there isnt always an excuse as to why................riders do choose themselves. It must be very worrying if Poole are being outbid on riders and not prepared to stump up the money......what happens if the team struggles you wont be able to afford to make changes 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, STEVEHOLS54 said: Honestly Gav. When you don't allow yourself to get wound up you indeed post sensible and fairly informed opinion. Some of my fellow form contributors may forget your thoughts from last season where some thought Poole would wipe the floor with the opposition with the named team, yet you warned of caution with some of the fairly untried riders like Woryna/Spaniak on UK tracks. Also the fact that Brady was not a proven number one. Keep the opinions/posts coming mate as there is a lot of sense in your comments about riders. Don't disagree on Josh & Klindt but would be surprised and disappointed if Richie doesnt improve his av IF he is likely to swing in and out of reserve where there may be some easier points available. His GSA does not lie. It is what it is, but for me the deciding factors in his favour will hopefully be 1) His new biz is now set up and apparently going well and 2) Going in and out of the reserve berth if one or both reserves improve their av. On that final note for this festive period can I wish all you guys & Girls a Very Happy Christmas and happy Forum Posting for 2019 Thats how to have a debate .....shame that a couple of Poole fans have that inability And yes i was accused of all sorts at the start of last season when i said the Poole side was risky.............not one apology when i was spot on. Have a good xmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Gavan said: And the award for fabrication goes to........ He didnt want to much money but Ipswich got in first and he was happy with what was on offer and joined us Not every rider dreams of riding for Poole and when they dont sign for Poole there isnt always an excuse as to why................riders do choose themselves. It must be very worrying if Poole are being outbid on riders and not prepared to stump up the money......what happens if the team struggles you wont be able to afford to make changes I can confirm it was down to money and Allen wanted a little more than the club could pay at the time. Ipswich have offered him a good deal! From what I understand Poole, Ipswich and another club were talking to him but decided on Ipswich. Poole’s loss as think NBJ is a risk. But the books need to be balanced. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted December 24, 2018 Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Pirates Of Poole said: I can confirm it was down to money and Allen wanted a little more than the club could pay at the time. Ipswich have offered him a good deal! From what I understand Poole, Ipswich and another club were talking to him but decided on Ipswich. Poole’s loss as think NBJ is a risk. But books need to be balanced. Are you now saying that Matt ford has had to join the real world in speedway terms Edited December 24, 2018 by ray c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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