Sidney the robin Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, poolebolton said: I believe Holder and Kurtz can lead the line Also Josh G has been a number 1 in 2017 and was riding like a 3rd heat leader at the end of last season as was Klindt. As everyone keeps on saying especially in Poland Jack Holder is the most talented young aussie of the lot. Anyway to start this season im more confident in our heat 13/15 ability than 2018. Holder is good but Fricke ahead at the moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greener21 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Have you anough firepower at the top end of the team? Kurtz, Holder have huge potential but if i was a Poole fan i might be a wee bit worried. I would be a lot more worried if our reserves were Shane’s and wajtknecht as it has been proved before reserves can win you the league if you have strength in depth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Sidney the robin said: Holder is good but Fricke ahead at the moment. Agreed, but Holder has the most talent. Fricke was awful last year bar the U.K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Greener21 said: I would be a lot more worried if our reserves were Shane’s and wajtknecht as it has been proved before reserves can win you the league if you have strength in depth Why are you worried about Swindons reserves? Doyle, Batch and Musielek backed up by Eliis......................far better top 4 then Kurtz, Holder (if he signs) Josh and Klindt. Yes some teams will have the upper hand over Swindons reserves but if the top boys are poor it makes no difference. You can win the league either way either top heavy or strength in depth. Its no surprise to me that the 2 best teams in the play offs had Doyle and Lambert and both sides had good reserves to in Covatti, Allen and Toft. Build top heavy or the other way ......both can win the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Another signing announcement at half ten tonight... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: Another signing announcement at half ten tonight... What is the fixation with half ten? So we can all sleep on it ? Edited December 12, 2018 by foreverblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: Holder is good but Fricke ahead at the moment. But for how long? Fricke should already be a gp star Jack may beat him to riding at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, foreverblue said: What is the fixation with half ten? So we can all sleep on it ? Would not surprise me if Matt Ford already released all or most of the team to the Echo prior to Ned Payne going on his one week jolly up in Dominica. No doubt under strict instructions to be released on certain days timed with the Echo daily online deadline. The lack of a recognised World Star due to the lack of available money (or real interest from these stars who don't want to ride UK)) would seem to back this up. Interesting though as Matt was always enthusiatically involved with each riders press release, and kept hold of info right until the minute he wanted it released. I can only assume now he is looking to get out, and allied to no good news on Sponsor front, maybe means the effort is taking it's toll on him as he struggles to secure Sponsorship, be that main team sponsor or even some of the smaller ones who seem to be jumping ship. Having said all that I suppose we have been spoiled over the years of his tenure with some of the top guys that have graced the team. Let's hope next season is not Poole's last, but it's going to take people with deep pockets plus a decent main team sponsor & smaller sponsors to take it forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, foreverblue said: But for how long? Fricke should already be a gp star Jack may beat him to riding at that level. Fricke may still be improving. Much as I am a big Jack fan let's not forget what Fricke has achieved at still only 22. He won 4 yes 4 Aussie U21 titles - A World U21 title in 2016. Believe he was also part of League winning teams in the same season in POL Nice 1 - Swe Prem & Dk Leagues (was either 2016 or 2017). Easy to forget he is still only 22, but sometimes your past successes put you on a pedestal for expected immediate success on the World stage. Max/Brady & Jack are all progressing at 22/23 but maybe at different levels in their quest for the top. We should never forget a certain Mr Doyle who rode around Poole at similar age and never looked anywhere near the class of these guys. Even at 26/27. The biggest example of being one who matured later and then took it all the way to World Champ. Not everyone can immediately be a Zmarzlik/Drabik/Smektala/Woffinden/Piotr Pawlicki in their early years but one would like to think that all 3 young Aussies will be top/top riders in coming years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEHOLS54 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, BLACKHEART said: Reserves are the key to success. Proof is in the pudding. Give me a solid 1-7 over a top heavy 1-7 that relies heavily on the spearhead any day of the week. Top heavy teams don't win titles that often. Especially if your anticipated top 2 young Aussies realise anything of their true potential this season. Prefer anyway that many treat us as underdogs and let's see how the season progresses. Too much anticipation and over hype put on many of our teams over the years at Poole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 The 10.30 announcements is to do with the echo announcing the stuff pre written! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Skidder1 said: Is that 'any of the flaky 2018 Premiership Champions seven' that you're talking about? It’s all the flaky ones minus the one that really mattered, Chris Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, poolebolton said: The 10.30 announcements is to do with the echo announcing the stuff pre written! Yes that makes sense so if I was a friend of Ned Payne I would already know the team! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, DC2 said: It’s all the flaky ones minus the one that really mattered, Chris Harris. We have already announced one that was flakey last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, foreverblue said: But for how long? Fricke should already be a gp star Jack may beat him to riding at that level. They are virtually the same age, Holder is 6 days older and don't forget that but for an engine failure Fricke would probably have been in the GP's next year. They both have tremendous talent, Fricke is better at the moment but it would be difficult to say who may be the most successful in the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, foreverblue said: Yes that makes sense so if I was a friend of Ned Payne I would already know the team! I’m not friends with Ned and I know the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, Aces51 said: They are virtually the same age, Holder is 6 days older and don't forget that but for an engine failure Fricke would probably have been in the GP's next year. They both have tremendous talent, Fricke is better at the moment but it would be difficult to say who may be the most successful in the long run. Hard to judge. Fricke was awful in Poland last year. Wroclaw not happy with him at all. While with Doyle, Jack propped up Toruń as NKI and Chris Holder were average . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, foreverblue said: We have already announced one that was flakey last season. Yes. More to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, DC2 said: Yes. More to come. What league titles, i'l second that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolebolton Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, geoff58 said: must have been really unhappy with max to re-sign him again this year Well if you paid Rybnik £75K which is one of the biggest deals in speedway history you are going to give him a go aren’t you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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