phillipsr Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) Start with Phillips and Manzares and work up two cracking reserves potentially.. Manzares will come good and Phillips deserves a second chance after the dreadful way that Scunny treated him this year Edited October 30, 2018 by phillipsr 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, phillipsr said: Start with Phillips and Manzares and work up two cracking reserves potentially.. Manzares will come good and Phillips deserves a second chance after the dreadful way that Scunny treated him this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Johnson Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Auty 8.35 Neilsen 5.66 PIckering 6.11 Allen 7.37 Garrity 7.59 Douglas 5.20 Rowe 2.00 42.29 Has Ryan at reserve 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Paul Johnson said: Auty 8.35 Neilsen 5.66 PIckering 6.11 Allen 7.37 Garrity 7.59 Douglas 5.20 Rowe 2.00 42.29 Has Ryan at reserve Swap Garrity for worrall or anyone with an average that fits and that a good shout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Thought Douglas was about 6.1 Just because he had to requalify for a visa doesnt mean he he will come in on 5.2 again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpandroid Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 Why do people want Douglas back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, sharpandroid said: Why do people want Douglas back? Personally I think he should go elsewhere but would be a good reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, phillwhitewasmad said: Personally I think he should go elsewhere but would be a good reserve Any 6.1 rider would be a good reserve! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 30, 2018 Report Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, dontforgetthefueltapsbruv said: Any 6.1 rider would be a good reserve! as proven ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 23 hours ago, Steve55 said: He's a BSPA asset due to the deals with Peterboro' being voided, according to Ged Rathbone in SS last week. At the time, it was a swap deal with MPT. So who now owns MPT? Scunthorpe, Peterborough or the BSPA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 14 hours ago, sharpandroid said: Why do people want Douglas back? He is a good rider thwarted by injuries every season(could be a minus point) but was getting used to most tracks away. He, also, started the season in 2017 on the GTR, which he just could not get the perfect set up & changed back to his GM scoring points for fun but not enough for a new visa. When he left Scunthorpe, I got the impression that riders had to have a year out which is what was quoted in local papers & the SS. Even if he qualified last January by being in the top 3 of a state final or Australian Solo Championships, would he have then got a visa. Campton going back to Australia to try to qualify is opposite to what happened to Douglas. Have things changed in a year for visa qualification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted October 31, 2018 Report Share Posted October 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, IronScorpion said: When he left Scunthorpe, I got the impression that riders had to have a year out which is what was quoted in local papers & the SS. Even if he qualified last January by being in the top 3 of a state final or Australian Solo Championships, would he have then got a visa. Campton going back to Australia to try to qualify is opposite to what happened to Douglas. Have things changed in a year for visa qualification? As I understand it, a Tier 2 visa is valid for a maximum of 3 years but if the rider fails to meet the required standard when it expires then they have to take a year out. If they finish a season within the 3 years but their average is too low, then I believe they can re-qualify via the state or national championship route, which is top 4 BTW. A Tier 5 visa is only valid for 1 year so I think the only option in that case is a year out. Edited October 31, 2018 by Alan_Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Looking at the BSPA site for final averages, Ty Proctor did not have an average in 2016 so that must have been his year out. He then achieved a 7.15 in 2017 meaning he was ok then this last year, unluckily, having a 6.96 average. The case with Mason Campton, I followed, because of similarities to Ryan Douglas, & he has been at Workington for 3 years achieving averages of 4.67 in 2016, 5.73 in 2017 & 6.32 in 2018. Being at one club, similar to Ryan, made me think he was on a similar Tier 2 3 year visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Ryan Douglas secured 3rd place in last Saturdays Victorian State Championship which qualifies him for a visa in 2019. As previously stated, he finished 2017 on a 6.12 average but that was based on 34 matches. I have now gone through the last 20 meetings for Ryan in 2017 as that is now the limit of meetings for an average. I did say he improved his game when he changed back on to his GM & from 88 rides scoring 143 points I have him on a 6.50 average. Whether this is right or not, I'm unsure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, IronScorpion said: Ryan Douglas secured 3rd place in last Saturdays Victorian State Championship which qualifies him for a visa in 2019. As previously stated, he finished 2017 on a 6.12 average but that was based on 34 matches. I have now gone through the last 20 meetings for Ryan in 2017 as that is now the limit of meetings for an average. I did say he improved his game when he changed back on to his GM & from 88 rides scoring 143 points I have him on a 6.50 average. Whether this is right or not, I'm unsure. Depends who wants to sign him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WTF1 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 9:43 PM, sharpandroid said: Why do people want Douglas back? because anything has to be better than Phillips and Manzares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh1218 Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 Can't see Phillips anywhere near the EW raceway next season but as I'm led to believe teams running averages will be lower to start with which makes Gino a possibility for 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 hours ago, HerniaWise said: because anything has to be better than Phillips and Manzares. I was speaking with Danny at Workington after the Scunny meeting , such a lovely guy who was treated badly by Scunthorpe in the latter of the season , at least he tried , you could have been stuck with the likes of Sarjeant like we were last season who just took the p... !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 49 minutes ago, Taylorj said: I was speaking with Danny at Workington after the Scunny meeting , such a lovely guy who was treated badly by Scunthorpe in the latter of the season , at least he tried , you could have been stuck with the likes of Sarjeant like we were last season who just took the p... !! could you point out how he was treated badly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Tosh1218 said: Can't see Phillips anywhere near the EW raceway next season but as I'm led to believe teams running averages will be lower to start with which makes Gino a possibility for 2019 6 man teams with 36 points Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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