geoff100 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 50 minutes ago, jenga said: stand to be corrected .jseezw in what year were Daniel Nermark , joe haines , kake ,Charles w and John Branny in the workington team together ? this was the year when mr Nermark hit Ty Proctors rear wheel at redcar on the 3rd bend and putting him out of the meeting . looks like it was 2008 . thats when the riders wore team suits. there may have been the odd rider who didnt wear the team suits . but , i stand to be corrected , Honestly . I was their that night nermark was tossed about like a rag doll kauko was sent for because nermark wasnt speaking english and the doc didnt know if he was ok ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: No I believe that was what he (Keith) provided for the riders he was personally sponsoring under the "Armstrong Banner" which wasn't the full team, (will stand corrected) and those awful "orange boiler suit" Kevlar's seemed indestructible 3 or 4 riders persisted with them for a long time after they rode for Worky although KD did carry on sponsoring riders even when he sold the club. I remember Roynon, Topinka, Nermark, James Wright, Nieminen; Andre Compton amongst others who all sported the Dayglo Orange suits at differing times Someone who couldn't stand Team Suits was Ian Thomas as he always promoted the individuality of the rider and wanted them in their own colours to differentiate them from other team members; and there was a big debate a few year back to see what the interest was in the club providing team racing suits and I believe it was roughly a 50/50 split of those who thought (like Bagpuss to be fair) that it made the team look more professional; but with many of the remainder citing they preferred the individual look, I suppose you pay your money and take your choice. The one thing I would say is that due to the old peepers not being what they once were I have put the wrong reserve in the programmed change at Newcastle due to one looking exactly like the other guy on more than one occasion as those little dinky numbers on the front can be hard to see at times. Wouldn't have had that issue if they were in different suits like eh! Also who could forget the old leathers with the tassels hanging from the arms, what a fashion statement and you always knew who your rider's were as they usually wore the same colours most of their careers... Actuality I might be going off matching suits now, need to sit down and have a think about this one... lol Regards THJ I cam look at most pics from the 70s and u can tell who it is by the leathers and face mask and handlebars now they all look the same ! Unless i am getting old . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 Yep was 2008, remember coming up to watch Lynn get a draw at Worky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Yep was 2008, remember coming up to watch Lynn get a draw at Worky. A draw ?? Walking past old trafford one night someone asked the score i said 0-0 the guy said who missed our penalty ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 hour ago, jenga said: stand to be corrected .jseezw in what year were Daniel Nermark , joe haines , kake ,Charles w and John Branny in the workington team together ? this was the year when mr Nermark hit Ty Proctors rear wheel at redcar on the 3rd bend and putting him out of the meeting . looks like it was 2008 . thats when the riders wore team suits. there may have been the odd rider who didnt wear the team suits . but , i stand to be corrected , Honestly . You have said exactly the same as me but in reverse... I thought it was 2007 but never mind and if someone opts not to wear a team suit it can't be a team suit can it... jeeezs... Howay man giz a break... read what av rit... 4 or 5 of the guys had sponsorship which included Kevlars 2 or 3 didn't... a team suit in this reference is 7 riders all wearing the same team colours... doh! Regards THJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 25, 2019 Report Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, geoff100 said: I was their that night nermark was tossed about like a rag doll kauko was sent for because nermark wasnt speaking english and the doc didnt know if he was ok ! we were there too ( i think ) .tossed like a doll from a pram ! Edited March 25, 2019 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 Nermark wore orange (and bright green) before he rode for Workington . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 17 hours ago, geoff100 said: Didnt we have race suits im denhams first season awful orange suits ! 13 hours ago, jenga said: stand to be corrected .jseezw in what year were Daniel Nermark , joe haines , kake ,Charles w and John Branny in the workington team together ? this was the year when mr Nermark hit Ty Proctors rear wheel at redcar on the 3rd bend and putting him out of the meeting . looks like it was 2008 . thats when the riders wore team suits. there may have been the odd rider who didnt wear the team suits . but , i stand to be corrected , Honestly . Prize Plum!!! 11 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Yep was 2008, remember coming up to watch Lynn get a draw at Worky. Just to put this one to bed Workington Comets have NEVER had team suits; in 2008 KD instructed the riders to get Kevlar's made in predominantly Orange and Black colours however the riders paid for their own suits and there was no collaboration on uniformity or standardisation and all riders rode wearing team bibs. Regards THJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) Fair enough, I was just confirming with jenga which year Nermark rode for Worky. Edited March 26, 2019 by Bagpuss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 1 hour ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Prize Plum!!! Just to put this one to bed Workington Comets have NEVER had team suits; in 2008 KD instructed the riders to get Kevlar's made in predominantly Orange and Black colours however the riders paid for their own suits and there was no collaboration on uniformity or standardisation and all riders rode wearing team bibs. Regards THJ I think you're wrong in part on this one in that they did all have the same design of suit. https://mike-patrick.com/downloads/workington-3515/ Judging from that picture they all follow the same design albeit made by different manufacturers. They even all have the same Thomas Armstrong logo in the same position on the same arm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyHonestJohn Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Najjer said: I think you're wrong in part on this one in that they did all have the same design of suit. https://mike-patrick.com/downloads/workington-3515/ Judging from that picture they all follow the same design albeit made by different manufacturers. They even all have the same Thomas Armstrong logo in the same position on the same arm. Honestly No they don't!!! Been in contact with Tony Jackson the Workington team manager all weekend (re: other matters) and just spoke to him on the phone again this morning to confirm my suspicions and Workington have never (ever) had official team suits (or supplied them to riders) and Jacko was the assistant team manager to Ian Thomas at this time; so sorry I think I am correct!!!! Plus looking at that photo you can see they aren't a team Kevlar some are wearing orange tee shirts ffs under the team bib. John Branney's tee shirt was even supplied by Wulf Sport... Also as advised earlier Ian Thomas was totally opposed to team suits. A team Kevlar incorporates all the detail (team name, and logo built into the front of the suit and a Velcro or stud area to the rear to apply the racing number/team position), negating the need for a bib, either new spectacles required to read the previous posts or to see a clearer view of the picture supplied or could just be another Prize Plum.... Either way pull the covers up as this is now surely put to bed? Regards THJ Edited March 26, 2019 by TotallyHonestJohn Edited for accuracy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: You have said exactly the same as me but in reverse... I thought it was 2007 but never mind and if someone opts not to wear a team suit it can't be a team suit can it... jeeezs... Howay man giz a break... read what av rit... 4 or 5 of the guys had sponsorship which included Kevlars 2 or 3 didn't... a team suit in this reference is 7 riders all wearing the same team colours... doh! Regards THJ Team suits nope at Comets......do recall Chris Blythe always wore a Rugby shirt, usually flowing in the slipstream....easily recognisable. Edited March 26, 2019 by singy13 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singy13 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 14 hours ago, geoff100 said: A draw ?? Walking past old trafford one night someone asked the score i said 0-0 the guy said who missed our penalty ! So a fan at vicinty of stadium but not at match.......???......you met a scouser then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 New sponsors for Scorpions: http://www.scunthorpe-speedway.com/?p=9611 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 5 hours ago, TotallyHonestJohn said: Honestly No they don't!!! Been in contact with Tony Jackson the Workington team manager all weekend (re: other matters) and just spoke to him on the phone again this morning to confirm my suspicions and Workington have never (ever) had official team suits (or supplied them to riders) and Jacko was the assistant team manager to Ian Thomas at this time; so sorry I think I am correct!!!! Plus looking at that photo you can see they aren't a team Kevlar some are wearing orange tee shirts ffs under the team bib. John Branney's tee shirt was even supplied by Wulf Sport... Also as advised earlier Ian Thomas was totally opposed to team suits. A team Kevlar incorporates all the detail (team name, and logo built into the front of the suit and a Velcro or stud area to the rear to apply the racing number/team position), negating the need for a bib, either new spectacles required to read the previous posts or to see a clearer view of the picture supplied or could just be another Prize Plum.... Either way pull the covers up as this is now surely put to bed? Regards THJ Clearly a race bib on various race suits. You can see the fasteners on the bibs at the sides. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Tsunami said: Clearly a race bib on various race suits. You can see the fasteners on the bibs at the sides. That was never debated. It’s obviously a race jacket, just as obvious as they are suits all made using the same design - Even John Branney’s wulfsport attire. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 13 hours ago, Pinny said: Nermark wore orange (and bright green) before he rode for Workington . that wasnt the debate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Najjer said: That was never debated. It’s obviously a race jacket, just as obvious as they are suits all made using the same design - Even John Branney’s wulfsport attire. Not true. Look at the legs. John has a Wulfsport top under the race bib. He aways used Wulfsport as they are made in Worky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 8 hours ago, singy13 said: Team suits nope at Comets......do recall Chris Blythe always wore a Rugby shirt, usually flowing in the slipstream....easily recognisable. so the Ipswich team suit they had when the infamous two shades of green were around was in fact not a team suit . try telling that to ippo fans . plus if they were all the same , how would Daniel Nermark get into a suit that Joe Haines wore . exactly same , but only different ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iris123 Posted March 26, 2019 Report Share Posted March 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tsunami said: Not true. Look at the legs. John has a Wulfsport top under the race bib. He aways used Wulfsport as they are made in Worky. Mention Wulfsport and Lubos Tomicek immediately springs to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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