Bagpuss Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, jenga said: yep , lets just add to the expense of the sport .but i suppose they can get it back by increasing the entry fee to all tracks . that should do it .. . may as well charge the fans to get out the tracks as well . but if thats what it take , do it . Didn’t think for a moment I’d get a sensible answer but for what it’s worth that’s a very negative way of looking at it. How about trying to look as professional as possible to gain more sponsorship? Speculating a bit to accumulate? Even some National League teams have them. Why would a team want their collective photo in the paper on online with everyone in different gear? Looks so amateurish. Unfortunately too many people in speedway are like you and have a can’t do attitude rather than trying to drive the sport forward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bagpuss said: Didn’t think for a moment I’d get a sensible answer but for what it’s worth that’s a very negative way of looking at it. How about trying to look as professional as possible to gain more sponsorship? Speculating a bit to accumulate? Even some National League teams have them. Why would a team want their collective photo in the paper on online with everyone in different gear? Looks so amateurish. Unfortunately too many people in speedway are like you and have a can’t do attitude rather than trying to drive the sport forward. a certain team north of the border have done wonders for their team and its place of work .but according to reports , still cant make anything from it . workington had team suits in the stoney era, but still could not halt the dwindling fan base . so better to save the money and make it last as long as poss . + riders like their own gear . Edited March 17, 2019 by jenga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proud panther Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, jenga said: a certain team north of the border have done wonders for their team and its place of work .but according to reports , still cant make anything from it . workington had team suits in the stoney era, but still could not halt the dwindling fan base . so better to save the money and make it last as long as poss . + riders like their own gear . Think you are wrong, & typify what is wrong with a lot of speedway fans. We need to make the sport more professional, & racesuits are very important to improve the image of the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 17, 2019 Report Share Posted March 17, 2019 This years team suits did not cost the northern club any money they are sponsored same as last year 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, proud panther said: Think you are wrong, & typify what is wrong with a lot of speedway fans. We need to make the sport more professional, & racesuits are very important to improve the image of the sport. i agree they look good . but the sport is run by unprofessional people and riders are demanding pro rates from promotors who cant supply the cash needed to pay these guys . the great northern club was jam packed , but still found it hard to pay certain bills . when you were a kid playing footie in the park/street . you always knew who your team mates were regardless of the colour of your strip . hence the helmet colours ! 8 hours ago, mac101 said: This years team suits did not cost the northern club any money they are sponsored same as last year could that sponsorship be put to better use ? Edited March 18, 2019 by jenga just joined the sad and confused club . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 I think racesuits have had their day to be honest. Especially when you see young riders coming in to the sport with numerous sponsors and those sponsors crave space and profile. A team race suit limits space, an individual racesuit and body colour allows more space and a rider his "individuality" and sponsors like that. The modern trend also seems that those who have individual race-suits incorporate the body colour in to the suit. I am told a race suit costs north of £600 and a body colour costs about 10% of that, if Clubs can blow around £4500/£5000 of sponsorship money on suits, good luck to them, I suspect most would rather bank the £4000 and have race jackets that can give one big sponsor just as much exposure??... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, HGould said: I think racesuits have had their day to be honest. Especially when you see young riders coming in to the sport with numerous sponsors and those sponsors crave space and profile. A team race suit limits space, an individual racesuit and body colour allows more space and a rider his "individuality" and sponsors like that. The modern trend also seems that those who have individual race-suits incorporate the body colour in to the suit. I am told a race suit costs north of £600 and a body colour costs about 10% of that, if Clubs can blow around £4500/£5000 of sponsorship money on suits, good luck to them, I suspect most would rather bank the £4000 and have race jackets that can give one big sponsor just as much exposure??... When team racesuits are made for each rider, all their individual sponsors go on to that individuals racesuit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, StevePark said: When team racesuits are made for each rider, all their individual sponsors go on to that individuals racesuit. but the team race suits take the eye and not the riders sponsors . riders sponsors on a race suit take time to look for on a jazzed up suit . sponsors logos can be as big as they want to be on their own suits because there are no restriction as to how big they can be , where as they are limited to size with team suits . as HGould says , they have had their day and the built in body colour is the best option . plus they can keep the race suits when the season finishes . it belongs to them and not the club . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, StevePark said: When team racesuits are made for each rider, all their individual sponsors go on to that individuals racesuit. That's blindingly obvious but as jenga points out they are nothing like as visible or noticed. I have also taken friends to speedway who are not regulars and they find it far easier to identify the guy in the "blue leathers "- ("as many still call them") or the "green leathers" than a team where everyone id dressed exactly the same. Us more regular know all about the helmet colours but harder for newcomers to take in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 5 hours ago, jenga said: could that sponsorship be put to better use ? Isn't that the point - Big sponsors more than likely won't sponsor at all with an amatuer look. With a more professional image they are more likely to. I still can't believe more teams (if any now actually) don't try and get sponsorship for fork covers. That is prime spot for every photograph being taken and is cheap to get manufactured. Win-Win! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGould Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, Najjer said: Isn't that the point - Big sponsors more than likely won't sponsor at all with an amatuer look. With a more professional image they are more likely to. I still can't believe more teams (if any now actually) don't try and get sponsorship for fork covers. That is prime spot for every photograph being taken and is cheap to get manufactured. Win-Win! The problem would be persuading riders who have had sponsors give them hundreds/thousands for various bit of sponsorship on bike covers etc, to take their off and put Club one on. If the Club provided the complete Bike and all decals might be different but unlikely in current climate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, Najjer said: Isn't that the point - Big sponsors more than likely won't sponsor at all with an amatuer look. With a more professional image they are more likely to. I still can't believe more teams (if any now actually) don't try and get sponsorship for fork covers. That is prime spot for every photograph being taken and is cheap to get manufactured. Win-Win! aye, kevin doolan had it sussed last season. backed by someone called K.D ! hit you right in the peepers. those aussies have got it sussed , eh ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, HGould said: The problem would be persuading riders who have had sponsors give them hundreds/thousands for various bit of sponsorship on bike covers etc, to take their off and put Club one on. If the Club provided the complete Bike and all decals might be different but unlikely in current climate. No persuasion needed - That's our rules, so follow them or ride for someone else. Interesting that Ipswich have revealed they have team suits and matching team bike covers too - with the main team sponsor taking prime spot on the front of the bike covers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmauger Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 At Hull in 2005 each rider was issued with 2 fork covers & 2 rear wheel spoilers both of which carried the team sponsor who also featured on the front and back of the body colours and extensivley in the match programme. Just sayin'.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac101 Posted March 18, 2019 Report Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) The only main differences between the riders own suits and club ones will be the team colours, each rider tells the manufacture where he wants his own sponsor logos on the suit so basically no real difference , the only time I can remember a club insisting on putting a non sponsor logo was last year when Glasgow put the Greg Mackie training academy logo on all the suits which all the riders were happy about , and it also saves the rider £6/700 before the season starts Glasgow have had individual fans sponsor each suits and they got to keep them when the season is over not that there's much left of it after a season and this year it's Grant Henderson Tankers who has sponsored all the team suits Edited March 18, 2019 by mac101 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 It's like "Tumble Weed" blowing through here these days ? if anyone's interested there's a "Presser and Practice" down the EWR from 5pm tonight ! Speedways back ! meet your fav's at 7pm clubhouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relic Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 As far as I know Kev Doolans fork covers are available for short (ie one meeting) or longer term sponcership so that those with very limited amounts of money have the oppotunity to help him and be recognised for it. Anyone interested contact Kev direct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaron Posted March 22, 2019 Report Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, the outsider said: It's like "Tumble Weed" blowing through here these days ? if anyone's interested there's a "Presser and Practice" down the EWR from 5pm tonight ! Speedways back ! meet your fav's at 7pm clubhouse Well that went well ! ?? Got as far as Rothwell on M62 and stuck in traffic jam till after 5pm ..gave up and turned round for home ..! No practice for us straight into week Sunday at Sheffield ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillwhitewasmad Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 hours ago, the outsider said: Well that went well ! ?? Got as far as Rothwell on M62 and stuck in traffic jam till after 5pm ..gave up and turned round for home ..! No practice for us straight into week Sunday at Sheffield ! Was a good night all riders had some good track time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Any pictures of the racesuits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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