Ice Speedway 2018/19

[f-s-p]

Tani has to get some results and I can't see why he couldn't be in the top6.

Isoaho did well last year in the Kauhajoki meeting, all others are first timers without practise on a frozen SPEEDWAY track. Looking forward to a few harmless wobbles in the first set of heats.

EDIT: added word harmless

Edited January 11, 2019 by f-s-p

[Conkers]

7 hours ago, DutchGrasstrack said:

Any predictions? Both look realy tough.

Sweden: M.Haarahiltunen, N.Svensson, F.Zorn, H.Weber, N.Toloknov, D.Valeev, A.Shishegov... maybe G.Bauer?

Finland: O.Ledstrom, S.Svensson, D.Ivanov, D.Khomitsevich look certain... then S.Pletschacher, M.Niedermaier, T.Busch, J.Iwema, C.Ebner?

'No Mates' Bauer may well get the permanent wild card if he doesnt qualify, however I'd like to see Busch Iwema and Ebner go through. My head says the more experienced riders will go through. Surpised to see how few 'regulars' are in the qualifiers, and it does seem odd not to have a Klatovsky riding.

I know Jesper will be doing live updates from Finland, but are there any updates from Sweden?

[f-s-p]

Theres a stream from övik I’m told. No idea where. 

[Schwantz34]

Conkers, I see you refer to Bauer as " no mates" and I heard the commentator for FIM TV say in coverage last year that him and Weber have a frosty relationship. What's the issue with him? 

[DutchGrasstrack]

Bauer senior is out according to someone on the German forum.

[DutchGrasstrack]

1 hour ago, f-s-p said:

Theres a stream from övik I’m told. No idea where. 

Weber his team will do it on Facebook.

[DutchGrasstrack]

1 hour ago, DutchGrasstrack said:

Bauer senior is out according to someone on the German forum.

Replaced by Jonas Andersson.

[Conkers]

1 hour ago, Schwantz34 said:

Conkers, I see you refer to Bauer as " no mates" and I heard the commentator for FIM TV say in coverage last year that him and Weber have a frosty relationship. What's the issue with him? 

It started a few years ago, when Bauer claimed he was better than all the other German riders, who were were rubbish in his opinion. He has had fall outs with all the German riders, and myself, Iris 123 and a couple others jokingly refered to him as Gunther No Mates. Then I was in Sanok for the Team Final a few years ago, when Bauer sat apart from the other Germans with his back to them, and the joke stuck.

If you can find it on YouTube, at Inzell in 2015, Weber was leading Bauer, and when they came into the second turn Bauer deliberately barged Weber taking him out. I have a sequence of the crash and in one pic, Webers wheels are clear of the ice. (If you have a look on my Instagram - I put it on there, there is a link below) The two don't even stand next to each other on the parades such is their dislike of each other. 

Bauer though is very popular and puts bums on seats, and I'm sure if he put the effort in with the others and settled his differences, then the Germans could be a force again. 

https://www.instagram.com/p/BsgrCnBljhtHVLh9MCe6PUHAl-AwUUOerEhjAI0/,

 

 

Edited January 11, 2019 by Conkers

[Schwantz34]

Thanks Conkers, it's just lucky his boy rides under the Italian flag then!!

[rusky]

11 hours ago, DutchGrasstrack said:

Bauer senior is out according to someone on the German forum.

He has withdrawn himself due to illness. He flew back home from Ornskoldsvik on Thursday.

[Bavarian]

12 hours ago, Schwantz34 said:

Thanks Conkers, it's just lucky his boy rides under the Italian flag then!!

There is a reason for that as well. His father demanded that his son should get a spot in the World Championship and European Championship ahead of any other German riders, but the DMSB did not grant him his wish. Therefore Bayuer sr. said that his son from now on would ride with an Italian racing license, which would get him what he wants. 

 

   

[Schwantz34]

That is pretty arrogant indeed, especially when results clearly show Luca would not be competitive in world championship racing.

  I have to say personally though that G Bauer was happy to pose for a picture and sign a postcard for my 3 year old last year in the pits at Inzell so fair play for that

 

[DutchGrasstrack]

Ovik:

1. Dinar Valeev RU (3,3,3,3,3) 15 
2. Nikita Toloknov RU (3,3,2,3,3) 14 
3. Martin Haarahiltunen SE (3,3,1,3,3) 13 
4. Niclas Svensson SE (2,3,3,2,2) 12 
5. Andrey Shishegov KZ (2,2,2,2,3) 11 
6. Johann Weber DE (1,2,3,2,2) 10 
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7. Franky Zorn AT (3,2,2,1,1) 9 
8. Tomi Tani FI (1,0,1,3,2) 7 
9. Jonas Andersson SE (2,1,3,T,1) 7 
10. Timo Kankunnen FI (0,2,2,2,0) 6 
11. Luca Bauer DE (2,1,1,0,0) 4 
12. Jussi Nyrönen FI (0,1,d,1,2) 4 
13. Bart Schaap NL (1,1,1,Fd,1) 4 
14. Jiri Wildt CZ (0,0,0,1,1) 2 
15. Robert Ruzicka CZ (1,0,0,0,0) 1 
16. Albin Lindblom SE (1) 1 
17. David Lizák CZ (0,0,0,0,0) 0

Kauhajoki:

1. Dmitry Khomitsevich RU (3,3,3,3,3) 15 
2. Daniil Ivanov RU (3,3,3,2,1) 12 
3. Stefan Svensson SE (2,2,3,2,2) 11 
4. Max Niedermeier DE (2,3,2,3,1) 11 
5. Ove Ledström SE (3,3,Fd,2,2) 10 
6. Charly Ebner AT (0,2,2,3,3) 10 
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7. Stefan Pletschacher DE (1,1,3,2,3) 10 
8. Jimmy Tuinstra NL (1,1,0,3,3) 8 
9. Tobias Busch DE (3,2,1,0,0) 6 
10. Vladimir Cheblokov KZ (2,R,1,1,2) 6 
11. Matti Isoaho FI (2,1,2,1,N) 6 
12. Jasper Iwema NL (1,2,2,Fd,1) 6 
13. Josef Kreutzberger AT (0,1,0,1,2) 4 
14. Christer Biskop FI (1,0,1,0,0) 2 
15. Jan Pecina CZ (0,0,0,1,0) 1 
16. Martin Běhal CZ (0,0,1,0,0) 1 
17. Tomi Kirilov FI (1) 1

[DutchGrasstrack]

Lineup:


1 106 Dmitry Koltakov ru
2 919 Dmitry Khomitsevich ru
3 114 Dinar Valeev ru
4 333 Daniil Ivanov ru
5 383 Nikita Toloknov ru
6 58 Stefan Svensson se
7 199 Martin Haarahiltunen se
8 88 Max Niedermaier de
9 192 Niclas Svensson se
10 97 Ove Ledström se
11 181 Andrei Shishegov ru
12 665 Charly Ebner at
13 33 Johann Weber de
14 99 Stefan Pletschacher de
15 100 Franky Zorn at
16 Local wildcard
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17 Local reserve
18 Local reserve


Reserve:


16 273 Jimmy Tuinstra nl
17 72 Tomi Tani fi
18 22 Gunther Bauer de

[Conkers]

Thanks for posting the results, Jesper, as I've been snapping footy today, and getting cold and wet in the process!

OK, so how does Gunther Bauer get a reserve slot when he didn't even compete in the qualifying round? Is it a case of who you know?

[DutchGrasstrack]

10 minutes ago, Conkers said:

OK, so how does Gunther Bauer get a reserve slot when he didn't even compete in the qualifying round? Is it a case of who you know?

Oh yes. Friends and politics.

[DutchGrasstrack]

My pics from today: https://www.baansportfansite.nl/nieuws/1705/jimmy-tuinstra-sterkste-nederlander-tijdens-wk-kwalificatie-in-kauhajoki.html 

[Motorfilm]

Two videos from Sweden today, both filmed by me.

2019-01-12 FIM Ice Speedway World Championship, Qualifying Round 1, Örnsköldsvik, Sweden, Heat 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXypgUw49Vo

#15 Timo Kankunen, Finland (Red)
#14 Andrei Shishegov, Russia (Blue)
#16 Johann Weber, Germany (White)
#13 Nikita Toloknov, Russia (Yellow)

and

2019-01-12 FIM Ice Speedway World Championship, Qualifying Round 1, Örnsköldsvik, Sweden, Heat 12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkm0xxGXU1I

#13 Nikita Toloknov, Russia (Red)
#4 Jiri Wildt, Czech Republic (Blue)
#10 Martin Haarahiltunen, Sweden (White)
#7 Dinar Valeev, Russia (Yellow)

[f-s-p]

Well played by plets in heat 19? today! 

Edited January 12, 2019 by f-s-p

[iris123]

21 hours ago, Schwantz34 said:

That is pretty arrogant indeed, especially when results clearly show Luca would not be competitive in world championship racing.

  I have to say personally though that G Bauer was happy to pose for a picture and sign a postcard for my 3 year old last year in the pits at Inzell so fair play for that

 

I think part of it was also Bauer snr said Luca went to Russia for the previous Euro championships when nobody else wanted to and so should be looked upon favourably .

The rift though grew a few years back at the Team final when he slagged off his fellow Germans and said something along the lines of,i would be better riding on my own!!

Edited January 13, 2019 by iris123