Lord Lucan Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fenway Bleachers said: We have to qualify first and that is no certainty. worky gave up before the second corner, Ty the biggest culprit. Well done to Klindt for having a go. Looking forward to the cup semi........eventually. Now we need away points Being as you've found our Achilles heel I'd have been more optimistic, should I be in your shoes, and be looking forward to the final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 34 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: He /she is right though....as you said yourself on a different thread when Armadale is prepared grippy it is an extremely difficult track for away riders to score points on. Has as much home advantage as any track in the country, the results over the years refelect that. Not sure why you take such great offence from that being stated. What i would say to that is, that any rider worth their salt would get the set up after a heat or so, if they cant well thats not the tracks fault in my opinion. If you want to be a good rider you should be able to learn to ride any type of track. It’s to easy just riding the big open tracks where you hardly need to turn the bike and be a “throttle merchant” , the small technicall tracks sorts the men from the boys.( that is on way just directed at the comets). 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekker Posted August 31, 2018 Report Share Posted August 31, 2018 its grip that sorts the men from the boys on any size track. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New era Panthers Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 2:11 PM, Mr Blobby said: Get the trick track comment in, love it. Yes , how can any fan call it a trick track when you can't see half of it , just coloured helmets above the air fence. Have been there once never again it's like going to the pictures with the bottom half of the screen blanked off. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, New era Panthers said: Yes , how can any fan call it a trick track when you can't see half of it , just coloured helmets above the air fence. Have been there once never again it's like going to the pictures with the bottom half of the screen blanked off. What is now the 3rd & 4th bend at Armadale has always been somewhat of a viewing problem unless you are standing on the home straight and as a visiting or neutral supporter I sadly have to say there is a feeling of not being welcome among some of the Monarchs' supporters who feel that is their terrority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Endeavour said: Think we need Willie Lawson on a faster bike to enhance play off chances. Sadly he doesn't look a shadow of his former self. Think he may well prove to be the achilles heel come the play offs. He's not improved round his home track which he should know so going to tracks he hasn't seen fo 8 years will prove more than a little testing for him i'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 7 hours ago, GhostRider said: What i would say to that is, that any rider worth their salt would get the set up after a heat or so, if they cant well thats not the tracks fault in my opinion. If you want to be a good rider you should be able to learn to ride any type of track. It’s to easy just riding the big open tracks where you hardly need to turn the bike and be a “throttle merchant” , the small technicall tracks sorts the men from the boys.( that is on way just directed at the comets). This is just great, so tell me which gear ratio? Do we change it every race as the track slickens? Back wheel right back or forward? Toe out or in line? We'll leave ignition timing and jetting for the time being and I don't think we'll need to tilt the bars forward a touch to get us up the front on grippy starts - there's not enough races to sort it all out! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, cinderfella said: What is now the 3rd & 4th bend at Armadale has always been somewhat of a viewing problem unless you are standing on the home straight and as a visiting or neutral supporter I sadly have to say there is a feeling of not being welcome among some of the Monarchs' supporters who feel that is their terrority. Got that right their is one "lady" whose mouth is as big as her frame neither of which ard very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 hours ago, New era Panthers said: Yes , how can any fan call it a trick track when you can't see half of it , just coloured helmets above the air fence. Have been there once never again it's like going to the pictures with the bottom half of the screen blanked off. Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 hours ago, cinderfella said: Sadly he doesn't look a shadow of his former self. Think he may well prove to be the achilles heel come the play offs. He's not improved round his home track which he should know so going to tracks he hasn't seen fo 8 years will prove more than a little testing for him i'd think. According to William tracks are far more differently set up now than they were back then. So obviously finding a set up is going to take a little bit of time he’s actually getting better each time he goes out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Byker Biker said: This is just great, so tell me which gear ratio? Do we change it every race as the track slickens? Back wheel right back or forward? Toe out or in line? We'll leave ignition timing and jetting for the time being and I don't think we'll need to tilt the bars forward a touch to get us up the front on grippy starts - there's not enough races to sort it all out! The majority of the riders have been going there for many seasons and still can't figure it out,that's why they are just journeymen riders trying to earn a living from a sport that can't afford them full time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cj69 Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Love these moans about the stadium and the viewing. What do you expect us to do about it? In the current state of british speedway glad to have a track and team to support. We have survived only a couple seasons in the future everysince we moved there and again don't see much light ahead but some 'fans' would happily see us (and some other teams/tracks) fold. No monarchs in 5 years time a real possibility. Promotion/Directors have done wonders compared to what we started with. Yes there are areas viewing is not great so I don't stand there. Always see away fans on 3rd/4th bend (which is the best view imo, outside hospitality). Good few worky fans tonight fair play on travelling up. At every away track your greeted with some funny looks and murmers when you stand in the 'wrong place' I see it as their problem not mine. Unfortunately every team has their idiot fans. Then onto the trick track, again we didn't have much choice about size/shape not sure how we could change it or how else it could have been built. We prepare it for our riders and shudnt every team do that? It is a home track after all and shud have advantage. #tricktrackproud Onto last night's meeting, was more about the gating than racing. Monarchs far superior from the gate. Few good races thrown in (from both teams). Sure it will be a different story tonight but come away with a point shud be expected. Taken the bait and now not giving it back.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr Blobby said: According to William tracks are far more differently set up now than they were back then. So obviously finding a set up is going to take a little bit of time he’s actually getting better each time he goes out. And obviously the monarchs management will help with this by ensuring he'll get a minimum of 4 rides in every match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: And obviously the monarchs management will help with this by ensuring he'll get a minimum of 4 rides in every match Obviously that depends on the match situation if you have a good Team Manager,he might get 7 rides if the right situation arises. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 5 hours ago, cinderfella said: Sadly he doesn't look a shadow of his former self. Think he may well prove to be the achilles heel come the play offs. He's not improved round his home track which he should know so going to tracks he hasn't seen fo 8 years will prove more than a little testing for him i'd think. What a lot of nonsense. It would take any rider a few weeks to get back up to speed after missing half a season, yet Willie has been out for 8 years - so what on earth do you expect? He's improving heat by heat, week by week at the moment and last night the main issue for him was just being a tad slow to get to the 1st bend. He came from the back to pass Bach in heat 2 and also heat 14, though Rene repassed him later in the heat, and he also took Campton from the back after a couple of laps in heat 7, though again he was caught on the run in to the line. If he keeps improving at the rate he is doing so, (bearing in mind he was well off the pace when he rode his first match back) he'll be what he stated he hoped he might be on the mic last week - able to bang in 4 or 5 each week at home by playoff time and add a couple away. He could well yet turn out to be the secret weapon, not the Achilles heel... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Byker Biker said: This is just great, so tell me which gear ratio? Do we change it every race as the track slickens? Back wheel right back or forward? Toe out or in line? We'll leave ignition timing and jetting for the time being and I don't think we'll need to tilt the bars forward a touch to get us up the front on grippy starts - there's not enough races to sort it all out! Like Ghost rider said originally, any rider worth their salt with half a brain would be able to work that lot out after a heat on the track. It IS their job, after all... Just ask the two debutants from Sheffield who rode it a couple of weeks back - they seemed to manage just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Fromafar said: The majority of the riders have been going there for many seasons and still can't figure it out,that's why they are just journeymen riders trying to earn a living from a sport that can't afford them full time. Of course, oh i forgot tyre pressures too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Biker Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, stewmac said: Like Ghost rider said originally, any rider worth their salt with half a brain would be able to work that lot out after a heat on the track. It IS their job, after all... Just ask the two debutants from Sheffield who rode it a couple of weeks back - they seemed to manage just fine. Oh aye, and if some folk had ever raced a Speedway bike they'd think a bit harder before posting on here. This forum is full of Team Managers, Promoters and expert riders who stand on the terraces every week filling a programme in, crack on. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Byker Biker said: Of course, oh i forgot tyre pressures too Are you for real? Any rider taking your approach would never even bother turning up to race any meeting anywhere, as they'd have talked themselves out of it before they started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted September 1, 2018 Report Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Byker Biker said: Oh aye, and if some folk had ever raced a Speedway bike they'd think a bit harder before posting on here. This forum is full of Team Managers, Promoters and expert riders who stand on the terraces every week filling a programme in, crack on. I have raced a speedway bike, so it's you who needs to crack on, pal ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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