marko Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 I certainly would not blame any fan for wanting to stay, fans of any sport want to support their riders, players etc when they are down, I think we all feel that we need to let them know we are here and routing for them, especially when they are unable to get back to their feet. Hope the boy will not have any lasting damage, the kid has a lot of raw talent but this sport can be very cruel sometimes. Re: the guest situation - I think this will go down at a Lakeside error, these are the same people who had to change the team on the eve of the season because they didn't make 100% sure of the averages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoggy Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 37 minutes ago, marko said: I certainly would not blame any fan for wanting to stay, fans of any sport want to support their riders, players etc when they are down, I think we all feel that we need to let them know we are here and routing for them, especially when they are unable to get back to their feet. Hope the boy will not have any lasting damage, the kid has a lot of raw talent but this sport can be very cruel sometimes. Re: the guest situation - I think this will go down at a Lakeside error, these are the same people who had to change the team on the eve of the season because they didn't make 100% sure of the averages. I'm not knocking you're post, your comments are totally understandable. The decision to clear the stadium was taken for two reasons; we had concerns that access for the emergency services would be restricted, due to congestion, placing spectators at risk and Dan's dignity, there were a lot of distressed people and any plan to move him would have exacerbated that and could only be accomplished once the stadium was clear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, marko said: I certainly would not blame any fan for wanting to stay, fans of any sport want to support their riders, players etc when they are down, I think we all feel that we need to let them know we are here and routing for them, especially when they are unable to get back to their feet. Hope the boy will not have any lasting damage, the kid has a lot of raw talent but this sport can be very cruel sometimes. Re: the guest situation - I think this will go down at a Lakeside error, these are the same people who had to change the team on the eve of the season because they didn't make 100% sure of the averages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANSE Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Re the last part of your post when Workington were asking Lakeside if the meeting could start later could they not have mentioned Worrall could not ride due to the 8 day rule just a thought 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamish McRaker Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: Let me make it clear, Steve. No-one - no-one - went back 'to have a look'. No-one, indeed, looked in the first place, to the massive credit of all at the track. If anyone stayed a little longer than they should have or returned at a later point it was solely out of concern for Dan Bewley, nothing else. You also have people being effected by shock on these type of occasions, and they go into a kind of state where they have trouble in responding, both to the incident and to instructions being made. Everyone reacts differently and if some are seemingly slow to comply, it's often for that reason. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, MANSE said: Re the last part of your post when Workington were asking Lakeside if the meeting could start later could they not have mentioned Worrall could not ride due to the 8 day rule just a thought As Dave Hoggart has pointed out , we had our own problems all day with flights being cancelled, Tony Jackson will probably not have known they had a guest , and it wasn’t his responsibility to start looking anyway , it was Lakesides mistake for getting Worrall , surely Worrall himself should have known he wasn’t eligible to ride..not Workingtons fault ..getting boring now Lakeside made the mistake , the meeting was abandoned so no gain for any team ....just a thought 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr8scot Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Notice Kyle Newman is unable to ride at Newcastle tonight following last nights crash so best wishes to him too 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkendlass Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 Just heard about Dan's dreadful accident. I'm sure I speak for all Redcar Bears fans in wishing him a speedy, and complete recovery. He is a brilliant rider, and is so good to watch his all action style, the sooner we see you on the track the better. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 26, 2018 Report Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Taylorj said: As Dave Hoggart has pointed out , we had our own problems all day with flights being cancelled, Tony Jackson will probably not have known they had a guest , and it wasn’t his responsibility to start looking anyway , it was Lakesides mistake for getting Worrall , surely Worrall himself should have known he wasn’t eligible to ride..not Workingtons fault ..getting boring now Lakeside made the mistake , the meeting was abandoned so no gain for any team ....just a thought yep . dumbo should have known he was not eligible to ride (worrall). looks like he only seen the colour of the money ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 18 hours ago, geoff100 said: Dont normally disagree with u halifax but have to on this one it was not up to jacko or anyone from workington to let lakeside know about worrell any sporting team is going to use an advantage to beat the other team comets are utterly blameless , in this day and age do to others what they would do to u but do it first ! Hoggy has highlighted the exceptional circumstances prevailing at Workington so I'll accept there is no subterfuge here. You seem to be saying that even if there was, its OK. Its not (and yes, I am naïve). One of speedways biggest problems is the vicious self interest that prevails as teams seem to constantly trying to seek and advantage over rivals, to the latter's detriment. Its also one of the reasons why the sport is on its knees as fans get sick and tired of the culture of cheating, one upmanship and manipulation. I would have thought that any Comets fan would be totally against that, given just how much Workington have suffered at the hands of a BSPA decision made almost certainly at the behest of Scunthorpe Speedway and to suit their needs. I would accept that the difference between the two is huge, but both are an attempt to better the chance of your own success at the expense of others. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yes there is self interest but if a club won’t do it’s due diligence when attempting to book a guest you can’t blame everyone else. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 What people need to realise is this isnt Sunday league football, this is tier 2 of a professional sport, well its suppose to be. Even if Workington did know , they would of played the rules and used it to their advantage. As said, Lakeside and the riders cock up no question. Lakeside should of checked the rules before booking him and Worrall himself should of known he rode there less than 8 days previous. I doubt he would care though, I would imagine as a guest he had all expense paid plus a minimum wage at least for turning up. Its just a massive balls up which has sadly been overlooked to some extent because of Bewleys injury. Its no wonder this sport is in such a mess and why fans are turning away in hundreds, everywhere. Paying top dollar to see a side show up with no number one due to the away managements total retardedness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 4 hours ago, Halifaxtiger said: Hoggy has highlighted the exceptional circumstances prevailing at Workington so I'll accept there is no subterfuge here. You seem to be saying that even if there was, its OK. Its not (and yes, I am naïve). One of speedways biggest problems is the vicious self interest that prevails as teams seem to constantly trying to seek and advantage over rivals, to the latter's detriment. Its also one of the reasons why the sport is on its knees as fans get sick and tired of the culture of cheating, one upmanship and manipulation. I would have thought that any Comets fan would be totally against that, given just how much Workington have suffered at the hands of a BSPA decision made almost certainly at the behest of Scunthorpe Speedway and to suit their needs. I would accept that the difference between the two is huge, but both are an attempt to better the chance of your own success at the expense of others. I think its because we have suffered at the hands of others that i still disagree.with u any advantage should be grasped its the nature of sport these days . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 11 hours ago, jenga said: yep . dumbo should have known he was not eligible to ride (worrall). looks like he only seen the colour of the money ! When riders take guest bookings, do they take a 'non-returnable deposit' ?,,, if not it might be worth looking in to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Pinny said: What people need to realise is this isnt Sunday league football, this is tier 2 of a professional sport, well its suppose to be. Nope, its Sunday league football that in reality is a seasonal one day a week semi professional sport run by fans with a little bit of wealth who can run things but not improve them. A select few can also manipulate the rules to suit, are accountable to no one and operate in, it seems in secrecy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 10:21 PM, geoff100 said: Hope dan is ok , texter on updates blames mason i dont think he was to blame he was going for a gap same as kyle and dan just a racing accident with a bad ending. Now on the bad side i guess tonights tickets get us in next meeting either free or with a massive reduction howabout as a gesture to laura we all on here pay the full admission and spread the word so laura doesnt take to much of a hit i know not all will but now is the time to stick together , tonight has been a bad night with flight delays the late ambulance arrival and poor dan in hospital lets do all we can to show laura massive support.finally on the plus side well done kyle on his first comet race win. i have to say geoff100 , i am with you on this gesture towards laura and workington speedway . a great idea , so lets all club in and give something back to laura and show some support to her for the last few years of running speedway.... i know i have NOT been on her list for xmas cards . so if fans cant make this gesture , please top up the buckets for dans collection . every little helps . can a leopard change its spots , this one did . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelShoe Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Latest update on Dan from Comets website confirms his injuries as : broken left femur (5 places) ; broken upper right arm and broken left wrist. Following a 7 hour operation on Sunday his injuries have been pinned and plated and doctors are pleased with how it went. They hope to get him up on his feet in the next 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 http://www.workingtoncomets.co/news/article.asp?id=100992 As above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scaramanga Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 dans only a wee fella them injuries are gonna give him grief in later life ive been riding bikes almost twice as long as dans been alive without breaking bones but I still suffer in cold weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comet49 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 Bad injuries, all the best Dan for a good recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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