cityrebel Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 8 hours ago, liam said: I think the most shocking thing about tonight was when Jon Cook said the juniors were sent out to test the track and once they was ok the ref said the main meeting was ok to run!!! To me that is very very wrong. To open the turnstiles when the meeting is in doubt, is bad enough. To then send the kids out to test the track, while the senior riders stay in the pits is a disgrace. To try and get the last two home meetings on, despite dreadful forecasts, has done more damage to the club, who seem determined not to race on off nights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, cityrebel said: To open the turnstiles when the meeting is in doubt, is bad enough. To then send the kids out to test the track, while the senior riders stay in the pits is a disgrace. To try and get the last two home meetings on, despite dreadful forecasts, has done more damage to the club, who seem determined not to race on off nights. I personally have no problems with the rain off, we all have eyes and access to weather forecasts so can make our own mind up if we want to go and as halifaxtiger said they are not always right as proved with Scunthorpe last night. I made the decision to go last night by the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 24 minutes ago, cityrebel said: To open the turnstiles when the meeting is in doubt, is bad enough. To then send the kids out to test the track, while the senior riders stay in the pits is a disgrace. To try and get the last two home meetings on, despite dreadful forecasts, has done more damage to the club, who seem determined not to race on off nights. That does discount just how much a rain off costs. One quote I got from an NL promoter was £4,000. With that in mind, you would have to be insane (or loaded) to keep a meeting on when there was little chance of it taking place. Scunthorpe was the same last night, albeit that rain (by some forecasters) was due to stop at 5pm. The meeting went ahead, although before hand Rob Godfrey was sweeping the water of the bends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 6 hours ago, The Voice Of Reason said: Lakeside's PROMOTION - basically, hang your heads in utter shame.When Gerald Richter was track curator, Lakeside used to pay for a pretty accurate satellite weather forecast (that gave 15 minute forecast updates). Now, whether the current promotion pays for this service (unlikely), who knows. Suffice to say, sitting here in the Midlands and (from experience) a very accurate BBC forecast, heavy downpours were due from 8pm (the last time I checked, whilst sitting at my Mother-in-Laws was at 4pm). Or, in other words, I'm over 100 Miles away and could have called this one.Suffice to say Lakeside Speedway are I assume, now in debt through hire of the stadium PLUS 14 riders' travelling expenses (minimum)? Is it any wonder that Speedway Clubs' haven't got a pot to p!ss in?This cancellation appears on the back of weeks of the most glorious weather the UK has seen in years. Seriously?But no. Jon Cook clearly only wants Friday Meetings.The guy is an utterly useless PR!CK who has basically delivered mediocrity and utter failure during his tenure at Lakeside. Those who still believe otherwise are basically brainwashed automatons. Meanwhile, here's a song for the utter tw@t: Whilst I agree with most of your post the effing about with fixtures and the cut off approaching causes all reasonable judgement to be chucked out of the window. At this stage of the season only the clubs with no mathematical chance of the play offs can accommodate a rain off and some may welcome it, Sheffield are in an unprecedented position of an early bath in August which just highlights the fundamental mismanagement of the sport. It's both humiliating and shameful regardless, of whether Promoters are in the inner sanctum or mere members of the BSPA. The current and previous seasons are the most organised fukc ups I've seen in sixty years of supporting the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halifaxtiger Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, Whisperer said: Whilst I agree with most of your post the effing about with fixtures and the cut off approaching causes all reasonable judgement to be chucked out of the window. I think that made matters worse rather than being the sole cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, liam said: I personally have no problems with the rain off, we all have eyes and access to weather forecasts so can make our own mind up if we want to go and as halifaxtiger said they are not always right as proved with Scunthorpe last night. I made the decision to go last night by the way. I will always take a chance with local tracks in dodgy weather, but last night was never going to be on, despite what the club said. Modern technology is a wonderful thing. I can see the live rainfall radar, why can't they. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Exactly Cityrebel, I wished a had saved a screen shot of the rain radar at around 6:30 pm, I could have posted it and proved beyond any doubt the futility of attempting to run a meeting. Rain can die out but not when it’s on that scale and across such a huge area of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 What’s the problem with them trying to run it though? If anyone knew 100% is was going to be off then don’t go. I thought it would probably be called off but took the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Have to agree, if you are fully aware that there is a good chance it will rain and you travel only for it to be rained off then there is no room for complaint IMO. Weather forecasts are never a certainty so speedway promotions will try to get meetings on if there is a chance, especially with the cut off approaching. Personally I never leave the house on race night if the forecast is dodgy, have stood on the terraces in the cold and wet watching the rain hammer down or Buster going round with the big blade far too many times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: Have to agree, if you are fully aware that there is a good chance it will rain and you travel only for it to be rained off then there is no room for complaint IMO. Weather forecasts are never a certainty so speedway promotions will try to get meetings on if there is a chance, especially with the cut off approaching. Personally I never leave the house on race night if the forecast is dodgy, have stood on the terraces in the cold and wet watching the rain hammer down or Buster going round with the big blade far too many times. agree,you know nowadays the riders are not going to get changed if the forecast is rain,some don't even like a watered track!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Fromafar said: agree,you know nowadays the riders are not going to get changed if the forecast is rain,some don't even like a watered track!. The promoters can say the meeting is on, but the final decision is with the riders. For that reason I never intended to hand over the money until the two minute warning went on. With such a fragmented And unreliable fixture list, who knows when the next home meeting will be. Rob Godfrey might have a BBQ planned for the 14th, so that one might be binned as well. Edited August 25, 2018 by cityrebel Spelling mistake 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waco Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Speedway is now run by the biggest load of idiots since it began in this country and they have now put it in terminal decline,,,R.I.P 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I think this was nothing more than a desperate attempt to get fans money and try and limp to ten heats no matter how farcical the racing got, ignore the fact fans pay to watch 15 heats of RACING, not ten heats of RIDING. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, marko said: I think this was nothing more than a desperate attempt to get fans money and try and limp to ten heats no matter how farcical the racing got, ignore the fact fans pay to watch 15 heats of RACING, not ten heats of RIDING. Even though any crowd was most likely to be low and calling it off has probably cost the promotion thousands I really doubt that was the case. My guess is why the track was raceable they thought let’s try and get the meeting on and hope the rain misses the track. Edited August 25, 2018 by liam 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 12 hours ago, hammer1969 said: As people began to leave the stadium I'm pretty sure they made an announcement that they are hoping to race against Peterborough next Friday but that it was still to be confirmed and there doesn't seem to be any mention of it yet on the Lakeside website or Twitter. The date was offered to Peterborough but they have declined citing rider unavailability but, as far as I can see, only Grondal would be missing as he has a Danish league match the same day. It did appear as provisional fixture up until yesterday. However, bearing in mind Peterborough have outstanding league fixtures they might ordered to fulfill the date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 39 minutes ago, liam said: Even though any crowd was most likely to be low and calling it off has probably cost the promotion thousands I really doubt that was the case. My guess is why the track was raceable they thought let’s try and get the meeting on and hope the rain misses the track. According to LakesideLive the track was "rideable" there is a big difference between rideable and raceable, fans pay to watch riders race, not ride, not blaming them, they have to follow the narrative of trying to entice people to go, even if its under a false pretence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Just now, marko said: According to LakesideLive the track was "rideable" there is a big difference between rideable and raceable, fans pay to watch riders race, not ride, not blaming them, they have to follow the narrative of trying to entice people to go, even if its under a false pretence. With all due respect how would Lakesidelive know? They are a couple of fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, waco said: Speedway is now run by the biggest load of idiots since it began in this country and they have now put it in terminal decline,,,R.I.P It's hard to argue with that. I attended my first meeting as a wee lad at Wimbledon in September 1968, so I am fast approaching my 50th anniversary as a fan. There have been highs and lows throughout this period, but this season, without a doubt, has been the worst ever for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayleigh Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, tocha said: The date was offered to Peterborough but they have declined citing rider unavailability but, as far as I can see, only Grondal would be missing as he has a Danish league match the same day. It did appear as provisional fixture up until yesterday. However, bearing in mind Peterborough have outstanding league fixtures they might ordered to fulfill the date. Just noticed a fellow Witham dweller (not something we normally admit to) Edited August 25, 2018 by Rayleigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 For the restaging of the Glasgow meeting on Sept 14th , can anyone recommend a hotel not too far from the track please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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