Lakeside v Newcastle 24/8/18

[liam]

At least I got to see two junior races 

[cityrebel]

Should have pulled the plug earlier. Apparently the 'senior' riders had no intention of riding. I stayed outside waiting for the inevitable, ive seen it all before. Plenty of people demanding their money back afterwards.

[hammer1969]

It says on Lakeside twitter  " Tickets from tonight are valid for all future meetings, alternatively refunds are available by sending tickets along with your name and address to the Speedway Office (address can be found in the Our Details section on the Hammers site)  Problem I see there is once we part with out tickets we have no proof of payment so I would suggest sending them by recorded delivery, and if possible keep a photocopy, surely it would have been much better to re-open the payment kiosks and let people get refunds on the night, I know the queues would probably have been quite long and it was pouring down but it would have been our choice whether we wanted to queue and get wet or apply for a refund by post.

[marko]

I said earlier there was more in the way, apparently Lakeside don't care for forecasts, they just wanted to get the meeting on at all costs because they Fd up earlier in the season by having so many blank Fridays, well that's the price you pay, next time the weather looks dodgy people won't bother.

[cityrebel]

With the next home league match scheduled for the 14/9. It looks like 2 home fixtures won't get run before the cut off date. What a shambles of a season this is. I can't remember a worse one.

 

[liam]

Could it be possible to rearrange the Newcastle meeting for next Friday?

[gregory peck]

9 minutes ago, liam said:

Could it be possible to rearrange the Newcastle meeting for next Friday?

Newcastle are at Glasgow 

[liam]

1 minute ago, gregory peck said:

Newcastle are at Glasgow 

So you’re saying no then? Lol. Thanks mate.

[liam]

I think the most shocking thing about tonight was when Jon Cook said the juniors were sent out to test the track and once they was ok the ref said the main meeting was ok to run!!! To me that is very very wrong.

[Daytripper]

28 minutes ago, marko said:

I said earlier there was more in the way, apparently Lakeside don't care for forecasts, they just wanted to get the meeting on at all costs because they Fd up earlier in the season by having so many blank Fridays, well that's the price you pay, next time the weather looks dodgy people won't bother.

They had blank Friday's because that Pikey Godfrey pulled the plug on authorised fixture dates, then blocked revised fixtures on reserved dates. Even the fixture for Glasgow to come on 14th September is not showing on the BSPA website, so goodness knows what is going on there.  The BSPA under the leadership of Chapman and Godfrey has gone from bad to worse and it hasn't it bottom yet.

[hammer1969]

As people began to leave the stadium I'm pretty sure they made an announcement that they are hoping to race against Peterborough next Friday but that it was still to be confirmed and there doesn't seem to be any mention of it yet on the Lakeside website or Twitter.

[marko]

This was all before another promoter pipped up, Im talking about much earlier in the season, and in fact the same thing has been happening for several years now, its not something new, lessons should have been learnt a long time ago.

[Daytripper]

1 hour ago, cityrebel said:

Should have pulled the plug earlier. Apparently the 'senior' riders had no intention of riding. I stayed outside waiting for the inevitable, ive seen it all before. Plenty of people demanding their money back afterwards.

I think the rumour about the senior riders came because they weren't fitting new tyres. That wasn't because they were refusing to race though, I think they were told not to fit them till the meeting was confirmed to go ahead. They were actually fitting them when the final heavy shower pushed the meeting off. 

[marko]

I said a few weeks ago (continuing decline of speedway thread) that this was going to start happening, most of the tracks are so bare to the bone that just a little bit of rain at the wrong time (race time) will make them pretty much no go, and tonight classic example of that although given the nature of the rain that was falling around the region, I am not sure if even a deep track would have been recoverable by scraping the extra shale off but certainly a slick track, no chance at all.

As already mentioned I was working this afternoon/evening so I couldn't have gone anyway, but having seen the radar at 6pm I can tell you now, I would not have ventured out had I been at home and not working, there was simply NO WAY this meeting was either going to be A. on, or B. go the distance.

[cityrebel]

11 minutes ago, Daytripper said:

I think the rumour about the senior riders came because they weren't fitting new tyres. That wasn't because they were refusing to race though, I think they were told not to fit them till the meeting was confirmed to go ahead. They were actually fitting them when the final heavy shower pushed the meeting off. 

Fair enough.

[The Voice Of Reason]

Lakeside's PROMOTION - basically, hang your heads in utter shame.

When Gerald Richter was track curator, Lakeside used to pay for a pretty accurate satellite weather forecast (that gave 15 minute forecast updates). Now, whether the current promotion pays for this service (unlikely), who knows. Suffice to say, sitting here in the Midlands and (from experience) a very accurate BBC forecast, heavy downpours were due from 8pm (the last time I checked, whilst sitting at my Mother-in-Laws was at 4pm). Or, in other words, I'm over 100 Miles away and could have called this one.

Suffice to say Lakeside Speedway are I assume, now in debt through hire of the stadium PLUS 14 riders' travelling expenses (minimum)? Is it any wonder that Speedway Clubs' haven't got a pot to p!ss in?

This cancellation appears on the back of weeks of the most glorious weather the UK has seen in years. Seriously?

But no. Jon Cook clearly only wants Friday Meetings.

The guy is an utterly useless PR!CK who has basically delivered mediocrity and utter failure during his tenure at Lakeside. Those who still believe otherwise are basically brainwashed automatons.

Meanwhile, here's a song for the utter tw@t:

 

 

Edited August 25, 2018 by The Voice Of Reason

[liam]

5 hours ago, The Voice Of Reason said:

Lakeside's PROMOTION - basically, hang your heads in utter shame.

When Gerald Richter was track curator, Lakeside used to pay for a pretty accurate satellite weather forecast (that gave 15 minute forecast updates). Now, whether the current promotion pays for this service (unlikely), who knows. Suffice to say, sitting here in the Midlands and (from experience) a very accurate BBC forecast, heavy downpours were due from 8pm (the last time I checked, whilst sitting at my Mother-in-Laws was at 4pm). Or, in other words, I'm over 100 Miles away and could have called this one.

Suffice to say Lakeside Speedway are I assume, now in debt through hire of the stadium PLUS 14 riders' travelling expenses (minimum)? Is it any wonder that Speedway Clubs' haven't got a pot to p!ss in?

This cancellation appears on the back of weeks of the most glorious weather the UK has seen in years. Seriously?

But no. Jon Cook clearly only wants Friday Meetings.

The guy is an utterly useless PR!CK who has basically delivered mediocrity and utter failure during his tenure at Lakeside. Those who still believe otherwise are basically brainwashed automatons.

Meanwhile, here's a song for the utter tw@t:

 

 

The lesson here is don’t use the internet when drunk lol.

[Mike.Butler]

Makes you wonder how tracks are going to fulfil their fixtures when we get an 'average' summer!

[Halifaxtiger]

7 hours ago, marko said:

I said a few weeks ago (continuing decline of speedway thread) that this was going to start happening, most of the tracks are so bare to the bone that just a little bit of rain at the wrong time (race time) will make them pretty much no go, and tonight classic example of that although given the nature of the rain that was falling around the region, I am not sure if even a deep track would have been recoverable by scraping the extra shale off but certainly a slick track, no chance at all.

As already mentioned I was working this afternoon/evening so I couldn't have gone anyway, but having seen the radar at 6pm I can tell you now, I would not have ventured out had I been at home and not working, there was simply NO WAY this meeting was either going to be A. on, or B. go the distance.

Not true of Scunthorpe. They had had showers all day and the last one was about 6pm.

5 hours ago, The Voice Of Reason said:

Lakeside's PROMOTION - basically, hang your heads in utter shame.

When Gerald Richter was track curator, Lakeside used to pay for a pretty accurate satellite weather forecast (that gave 15 minute forecast updates). Now, whether the current promotion pays for this service (unlikely), who knows. Suffice to say, sitting here in the Midlands and (from experience) a very accurate BBC forecast, heavy downpours were due from 8pm (the last time I checked, whilst sitting at my Mother-in-Laws was at 4pm). Or, in other words, I'm over 100 Miles away and could have called this one.

Suffice to say Lakeside Speedway are I assume, now in debt through hire of the stadium PLUS 14 riders' travelling expenses (minimum)? Is it any wonder that Speedway Clubs' haven't got a pot to p!ss in?

This cancellation appears on the back of weeks of the most glorious weather the UK has seen in years. Seriously?

But no. Jon Cook clearly only wants Friday Meetings.

The guy is an utterly useless PR!CK who has basically delivered mediocrity and utter failure during his tenure at Lakeside. Those who still believe otherwise are basically brainwashed automatons.

Meanwhile, here's a song for the utter tw@t:

 

 

In my experience Met Office forecasts (and the BBC get theirs from Met Office) are accurate about an hour before hand. Give it a half a day or more, and they are anything but.

Last night at Scunthorpe they definitely got it wrong because in the afternoon they were predicting showers up to 8.00pm.

On only rare occasions are postponements caused by malpractice, incompetence or underhand tactics. The cost of calling off a meeting with the riders at the track is huge so it will only be done early if there is a strong chance of racing not going ahead or at the time if conditions make the track unfit for speedway. 

[liam]

7 minutes ago, Halifaxtiger said:

Not true of Scunthorpe. They had had showers all day and the last one was about 6pm.

In my experience Met Office forecasts (and the BBC get theirs from Met Office) are accurate about an hour before hand. Give it a half a day or more, and they are anything but.

Last night at Scunthorpe they definitely got it wrong because in the afternoon they were predicting showers up to 8.00pm.

On only rare occasions are postponements caused by malpractice, incompetence or underhand tactics. The cost of calling off a meeting with the riders at the track is huge so it will only be done early if there is a strong chance of racing not going ahead or at the time if conditions make the track unfit for speedway. 

Be careful you don’t want to end up being called a brainwashed automaton mate lol.