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  On 3/3/2019 at 9:07 PM, pienpeesman said:

Just seen your earlier post & I missed the IF highlight & I won't pass judgement until both story's are out in the open which may not even happen,,, in this week's speedway star concerning the lawlor Bickley thing there are 3 different versions such as Facebook / the promotion & both riders have had a say & some of the times mentioned or what time Joe was sacked & Kyle got the call is a bit mind boggling but that's just an example to what goes on so we may never find out the true version,,, but I'm sure someone will know !!

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in the Glasgow case, in every version the key culprit is a rider vaping in a non smoking hotel friendly with the speedway promotion, and due to the fire alarms going off the hotel it had to be evacuated and the Fire Service had to attend just in case. All the 3 version don't dispute that fact, so the fringe points and the timings are not really that relevant and could be wrong for deliberate or best endeavours reasons. I think the outcome is quite satisfactory to everyone, except one person. :rolleyes: 

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  On 3/3/2019 at 6:28 PM, pienpeesman said:

Instead of putting negative responses on here why not wait until the facts about this decision are released from all parties concerned then if it's a decision made by the club which is poor then you're within your writes to criticize but there is always to sides to every story at the end of the day,,,. As it happens it was very touch & go that we ran last season but I can't really remember of the years I've gone that there has never been on the verge of shutting.. do you get your information off a doom & gloomer sauce I wonder

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It doesnt matter what the situation was you dont drop someone via text.... 3 weeks before the season gets going 

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  On 3/4/2019 at 7:08 AM, phillipsr said:

It doesnt matter what the situation was you dont drop someone via text.... 3 weeks before the season gets going 

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I agree with you regarding the text if true but if another rider has quit and it gives Newcastle a chance to get a rider like Steve Worrall in I personally would do it and I think a lot of other teams would in the same position simple as it makes Newcastle a lot stronger! 

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  On 3/4/2019 at 7:08 AM, phillipsr said:

It doesnt matter what the situation was you dont drop someone via text.... 3 weeks before the season gets going 

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What if the person was just ignoring the calls ?,,, (it does happen).

Also, its not as if they could say, 'by the way Vic, can you pop in the office, we need a chat'.

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  On 3/4/2019 at 8:47 AM, clambo71 said:

Go ahead answer him.

 

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He has come on defending the actions so he obviously thinks what has happened is fine.... it doesnt surprise me as i said its what Newcastle speedway are known for... i dont disagree its a good move team wise just do it in the correct manner 

 

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  On 3/4/2019 at 9:03 AM, phillipsr said:

He has come on defending the actions so he obviously thinks what has happened is fine.... it doesnt surprise me as i said its what Newcastle speedway are known for... i dont disagree its a good move team wise just do it in the correct manner 

 

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Newcastle are not known for this kind of action and you know it. You just seem to take great pleasure in having a go for the sake of it. Like someone posted earlier if anything they have been too loyal. I remember Casper Wortmann struggling badly and they gave him time. Danny Phillips was awful last time at Newcastle yet he rode the full season. There are many other examples.

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  On 3/4/2019 at 9:03 AM, phillipsr said:

He has come on defending the actions so he obviously thinks what has happened is fine.... it doesnt surprise me as i said its what Newcastle speedway are known for... i dont disagree its a good move team wise just do it in the correct manner 

 

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Check your stats over the past 40 + years & see how loyal the diamonds management team has been to the 1 to 7 and you'll be pleasantly surprised but there again as you seem to anti ( Newcastle) I don't think you will agree..

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  On 3/3/2019 at 10:33 PM, Tsunami said:

in the Glasgow case, in every version the key culprit is a rider vaping in a non smoking hotel friendly with the speedway promotion, and due to the fire alarms going off the hotel it had to be evacuated and the Fire Service had to attend just in case. All the 3 version don't dispute that fact, so the fringe points and the timings are not really that relevant and could be wrong for deliberate or best endeavours reasons. I think the outcome is quite satisfactory to everyone, except one person. :rolleyes: 

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Agreed that the rider should not have vaped in his room ( I think this happend sooner than expected as even tho the rider has done wrong the change may have came about when the 1st chance would arise & I don't think it would have been lawlor ( but his stupid mistake has cost him ) a team place it's going to be interesting to see who ends up there & I reckon he's an asset of there's with blond curly hair 

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  On 3/4/2019 at 9:56 AM, pienpeesman said:

Agreed that the rider should not have vaped in his room ( I think this happend sooner than expected as even tho the rider has done wrong the change may have came about when the 1st chance would arise & I don't think it would have been lawlor ( but his stupid mistake has cost him ) a team place it's going to be interesting to see who ends up there & I reckon he's an asset of there's with blond curly hair 

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Everybody seems to be thinking that Steve worrall & another is coming in for Victor & lunna,, me maths isn't to good but I'm sure ludvigs average is down at least a couple of points on last season so would that leave a Decent amount for a big number 1 to create in & move TJ to number 5 & could put ludde at 4 or 3 to partner lasse & Matty at 2 now that'll be a cracking top 5

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  On 3/4/2019 at 10:08 AM, pienpeesman said:

Everybody seems to be thinking that Steve worrall & another is coming in for Victor & lunna,, me maths isn't to good but I'm sure ludvigs average is down at least a couple of points on last season so would that leave a Decent amount for a big number 1 to create in & move TJ to number 5 & could put ludde at 4 or 3 to partner lasse & Matty at 2 now that'll be a cracking top 5

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Ludde could slip in no problem for Vic, ave about 6.5.

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  On 3/4/2019 at 10:08 AM, pienpeesman said:

Everybody seems to be thinking that Steve worrall & another is coming in for Victor & lunna,, me maths isn't to good but I'm sure ludvigs average is down at least a couple of points on last season so would that leave a Decent amount for a big number 1 to create in & move TJ to number 5 & could put ludde at 4 or 3 to partner lasse & Matty at 2 now that'll be a cracking top 5

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Your maths isn't the only problem.

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  On 3/4/2019 at 10:08 AM, pienpeesman said:

Everybody seems to be thinking that Steve worrall & another is coming in for Victor & lunna,, me maths isn't to good but I'm sure ludvigs average is down at least a couple of points on last season so would that leave a Decent amount for a big number 1 to create in & move TJ to number 5 & could put ludde at 4 or 3 to partner lasse & Matty at 2 now that'll be a cracking top 5

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Ludvig ended with a 6.47 avearge

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  On 3/3/2019 at 11:23 AM, phillipsr said:

Disgusting from Newcastle but no real shock there well known for treating riders poorly 

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See others posts to the contrary

  On 3/3/2019 at 5:25 PM, phillipsr said:

That makes it ok to drop riders spending thousands via text then.... strange business sense this maybe its Newcastle are always on the verge of shutting 

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Your insinuation not mine

  On 3/4/2019 at 9:03 AM, phillipsr said:

He has come on defending the actions so he obviously thinks what has happened is fine.... it doesnt surprise me as i said its what Newcastle speedway are known for... 

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Obviously not, I am still waiting for proof that I said that or even insinuated it. 

  On 3/4/2019 at 8:47 AM, clambo71 said:

Go ahead answer him.

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Stiil waiting. :(  He can't, cos he makes things up, like him saying I have said things that clearly I didn't. And can't produce the proof.

If you look at his previous, he has regularly posted defamatory  posts out of line with others views toward Newcastle. He's just a sad person I assume.

 

BTW phillipsr, I don't run Newcastle Speedway. I am a fan like everyone else. :P

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  On 3/4/2019 at 7:56 AM, ruffdiamond said:

What if the person was just ignoring the calls ?,,, (it does happen).

Also, its not as if they could say, 'by the way Vic, can you pop in the office, we need a chat'.

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As pointed out by someone to me this morning, probably 90+ % of deals are made by text these days, due to the difficulty of catching riders in differ countries and their inability to answer them at that time. A benefit is that it is a record of what is being said, rather than an option what was said.

 

Update. For those offended on behalf of Victor earlier, please note that Luna  TEXTED his withdrawal from the team. #justsayinglike 

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