Sheffield 2019

[Gazc]

9 minutes ago, Loose Diamond said:

That's the name of game now. Win at all costs. Glasgow, Somerset, Edinburgh, now Sheffield. All going for the prestige of winning. Anyone remember Workington??

I think they call it being proactive rather than reactive.

Anyway if you don't set out to win a competition you enter what is the point of entering.

 

[jenga]

10 minutes ago, Loose Diamond said:

That's the name of game now. Win at all costs. Glasgow, Somerset, Edinburgh, now Sheffield. All going for the prestige of winning. Anyone remember Workington??

Redcar will do the lot of you in the play offs . dont think sheff will gain a top 4 place . 

[Guest Loose Diamond]

12 minutes ago, jenga said:

Redcar will do the lot of you in the play offs . dont think sheff will gain a top 4 place . 

Oh! Sorry forgot about them! Yep they could be in with a canny chance.

[Guest Loose Diamond]

15 minutes ago, Gazc said:

I think they call it being proactive rather than reactive.

Anyway if you don't set out to win a competition you enter what is the point of entering.

 

Fair point.

[Guest Loose Diamond]

9 hours ago, The Third Man said:

Well that went well

Must be more than meets the eye here, one home meeting and three away, really cant see the point.

Hope Drew gets a team place to complete the season in the Championship.

I suppose at least it gives him the time to get fixed up before the deadline

 

 

Get him to Newcastle. We will have him. But probably cannot fit him in!?

[Paulco]

1 hour ago, Loose Diamond said:

That's the name of game now. Win at all costs. Glasgow, Somerset, Edinburgh, now Sheffield. All going for the prestige of winning. Anyone remember Workington??

I'm sorry , but when you enter a competition surely you want to try your best to try and win it . I dont get this argument when a team shows a wee bit of ambition the " win at all cost " accusation comes out . I really don't understand that way of thinking . 

[Guest Loose Diamond]

4 hours ago, romans lovechild said:

as much as I like to see british riders with team spots, I can see the reasons for this change.

ok, the play offs have all but passed us by, so maybe with the tracks left to visit, this change gives us a better chance I reckon, broc is our asset so why not use our own riders,

as he wasn't our own rider, we were only helping drews experience as a rider for Ipswich.

to mention dropping macdonald or kennedy instead is utter rubbish as they are our own riders, I would imagine these 2 along with broc will form the basis of the side next season,

yes its a bit harsh on drew, but that is professional sport. 

Speedway a professional sport?? Hahaha. Not the way the Authorities run it!

[Col]

Riders can't stay at reserve if they score too much..... Unless we have a progressive league that promotes youngsters like Poland..

[spin king]

While there is still a chance to make the Play Offs, and the opportunity arises that you can strengthen your teams chances then  you should take that opportunity.

And as things stand with the remaining fixtures that we have left I think that Nicol for Kemp gives us that extra bite away from home.

This season taking away the heatleaders in the team Nicol has been our best rider away from home this season, and with 3 of the 4 remaining fixtures away from home it has been a very tough decision but one that we had to really make bringing in a rider who has rode well away from home at reserve.

Also not forgetting the club is up for sale and the higher up the table the team finishes could be the difference on whether or not potential buyers will buy the club.

Onto Drew Kemp personally I think the lad is credit to himself, his family and the team around him, in a season where we have seen younger riders retire or take a break from the sport Drew has kept plugging away and his determination to carry on this season deserves loads of credit.

But this is sport and winning plays a big part and business is business.      

[spin king]

2 minutes ago, Col said:

Riders can't stay at reserve if they score too much..... Unless we have a progressive league that promotes youngsters like Poland..

I think eventually we will need to do something along the same lines as Poland if we are to build a network of future top class riders.

Drew Kemp this season has paid the price of his very early success, at the very start of his career he has been thrust into position where he was not quite ready for the level of his career.

The way he has stuck at it says a lot about the lads character, and I am sure that he will be successful in the future for whoever he rides for in the future.  

[Fromafar]

11 minutes ago, Col said:

Riders can't stay at reserve if they score too much..... Unless we have a progressive league that promotes youngsters like Poland..

Think we should adopt Polish style for British youngsters.

[Sidney the robin]

7 hours ago, Byker Biker said:

Whatever made you think this was anything to do with Simon? 

You would of thought he would of had a massive say Byker?

[Sidney the robin]

5 hours ago, Paulco said:

I'm sorry , but when you enter a competition surely you want to try your best to try and win it . I dont get this argument when a team shows a wee bit of ambition the " win at all cost " accusation comes out . I really don't understand that way of thinking . 

When it gets to a stage when there are changes galore the credibility wavers also how can fans get a rapor with the riders when year on year there are changes.Also with the Drew situation this has come about  because Sheffield never got the shape of there team right in the first place.

[Fromafar]

There is no credibility left in the sport anyway ,by the end of the season most riders will have ridden for other teams as guests,who cares who wins anything nowadays, the fans that are left just want to see a decent meeting.Even-then then seem few and far between.

[Byker Biker]

2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said:

You would of thought he would of had a massive say Byker?

You would, yes, but whatever the Bates' says goes at the end of the day at Sheffield. I would just caution against singling Simon out.

[Sidney the robin]

19 minutes ago, Byker Biker said:

You would, yes, but whatever the Bates' says goes at the end of the day at Sheffield. I would just caution against singling Simon out.

Totally right and Simon is someone i respect hugely enjoyed watching him ride for Swindon and Worky.As for Drew he will be fine he has had a tough season but he would of learned so much from it he will be around for years to come.

[Charlieboy]

I think the problem Drew has had is the team balance from day one. The sheffield promotion put together an exciting team that didn't improve as it should.Drew was expected to switch into the top 5 then drop to reserve when the averages changed. This didn't happen because the reserves struggled to out point Drew.He also seemed to lack speed round sheffield where you need fast engines.I heard a rumour that he was offered an engine off Steady but his sponsor refused the help !!!! Don't know if that's true but if it was then that don't help if your rider is struggling.Drew will get over it and he's not the first or last rider to be dropped. He has loads of talent and will soon get a team place in my opinion.The Sheffield promotion have done what they think is best and not gone down the route of over paying riders to win the league and not been able to come to the tapes the following season.They have obviously done it within their budget and possibly the visa issue with Broc has swung their decision.Good luck to Drew for the rest if the season.

[teaboy279]

Both the top 2 flights should have 2 young (ish) reserves who stay there for the season.

The draft idea was a good one just poorly implemented. And if persevered with and tweaked into a more workable model, then British speedway would be 3 or 4 years further down the line of development.

[screm]

8 hours ago, Fromafar said:

Think we should adopt Polish style for British youngsters.

Been saying that for a while now, for no other reason as it would encourage clubs to bring on younger riders as they would become their reserves in seasons to come. 

[Guest Loose Diamond]

8 hours ago, spin king said:

While there is still a chance to make the Play Offs, and the opportunity arises that you can strengthen your teams chances then  you should take that opportunity.

And as things stand with the remaining fixtures that we have left I think that Nicol for Kemp gives us that extra bite away from home.

This season taking away the heatleaders in the team Nicol has been our best rider away from home this season, and with 3 of the 4 remaining fixtures away from home it has been a very tough decision but one that we had to really make bringing in a rider who has rode well away from home at reserve.

Also not forgetting the club is up for sale and the higher up the table the team finishes could be the difference on whether or not potential buyers will buy the club.

Onto Drew Kemp personally I think the lad is credit to himself, his family and the team around him, in a season where we have seen younger riders retire or take a break from the sport Drew has kept plugging away and his determination to carry on this season deserves loads of credit.

But this is sport and winning plays a big part and business is business.      

You are right. Wins under 19 British Championship, drops to reserve then loses his place?? No logic in that decision. Slim chance/ no chance to make play-offs. ( Better than ours I suppose!!) Does not make any sense.