theblueboy Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 6 hours ago, PHILIPRISING said: BUT they must also adhere to the terms of their various contracts So must promoters. It’s a two way street. Happy to sack a rider and when it suits through bad luck or poor performance, which is why I have no issue with riders doing what they want when they want. If that means putting Poland before the UK that’s fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Starman2006 said: You are rather a bitter bunch on here arnt you. Still keep chomping, only another 5 months til the season starts. Always one in every village... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, theblueboy said: So must promoters. It’s a two way street. Happy to sack a rider and when it suits through bad luck or poor performance, which is why I have no issue with riders doing what they want when they want. If that means putting Poland before the UK that’s fair enough. totally. agree quick enough to sack riders so that means contract dont mean much either 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Think people are totally missing the point of contracts. Once a deal is agreed the rider is then deemed a clubs asset for that length of contract. Unless specified in the contract a rider isn't free to do as they please. If the rider doesn't meet the standards set or required by the club then said club has a right to terminate that contract. If a rider wants to leave that contract any resignation has to be accepted. What I would like to see introduced into rider's contracts, which would be beneficial for and protect them, is a fixed average increase protection policy i.e. 0.5 average increase. So a rider starting a season on a 7.00 average which then increases to 7.50 cannot be replaced except for injury or misconduct. ________________________ Anyway, back to Swindon. With the closeness of the newly built housing estate and future extensions to this housing estate, has any sound barriers to be implemented??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 No-one is missing how the league currently administers contracts. What we are disputing is that the way speedway uses them has any legal basis. Would just take one court case to blow the current mechanism away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Think people are totally missing the point of contracts. Once a deal is agreed the rider is then deemed a clubs asset for that length of contract. Unless specified in the contract a rider isn't free to do as they please. If the rider doesn't meet the standards set or required by the club then said club has a right to terminate that contract. If a rider wants to leave that contract any resignation has to be accepted. What I would like to see introduced into rider's contracts, which would be beneficial for and protect them, is a fixed average increase protection policy i.e. 0.5 average increase. So a rider starting a season on a 7.00 average which then increases to 7.50 cannot be replaced except for injury or misconduct. ________________________ Anyway, back to Swindon. With the closeness of the newly built housing estate and future extensions to this housing estate, has any sound barriers to be implemented??? The latest plan shows an acoustic wall around the whole site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Skidder1 said: The latest plan shows an acoustic wall around the whole site. The only trouble there Skidder is that they do not shut out much noise and are virtually useless. It is just a sop to please the planners and the house purchasers. The M4 in the south of Swindon has a noise barrier in parts but many areas in Swindon can hear the road noise. The only part you cannot hear is where the M4 is down in a hollow and the noise bund directs the noise upwards. Edited November 4, 2018 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 9 hours ago, waiheke1 said: No-one is missing how the league currently administers contracts. What we are disputing is that the way speedway uses them has any legal basis. Would just take one court case to blow the current mechanism away. There's nothing wrong with the way contracts are done between club and rider. The issues are club to club in the asset system. That's the only thing that would be thrown out in a court case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: There's nothing wrong with the way contracts are done between club and rider. The issues are club to club in the asset system. That's the only thing that would be thrown out in a court case. What a court would throw out is when a rider has finished riding his contracted period and the club will not allow him to ride for another club until that club pays them for the rider or a loan fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Starman2006 said: You are rather a bitter bunch on here arnt you. Still keep chomping, only another 5 months til the season starts. Was it a true statement, or was it false????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 27 minutes ago, A ORLOV said: What a court would throw out is when a rider has finished riding his contracted period and the club will not allow him to ride for another club until that club pays them for the rider or a loan fee. true - its totally unsustainable in employment law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 19 hours ago, Booey boy said: Poole Swindon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 category one greyhound competitions have been cancelled at swindon this yr, the arc and now the oaks. Very nasty smell eminating from blunsdon of late 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted November 5, 2018 Report Share Posted November 5, 2018 news on greyhound forum this evening that swindon closes 31st dec obviously not confirmed,with all sorts of problems at poole maybe stadia uk are going to concentrate on poor torquay !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyabb17 Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 12 hours ago, poole keith said: news on greyhound forum this evening that swindon closes 31st dec obviously not confirmed,with all sorts of problems at poole maybe stadia uk are going to concentrate on poor torquay !! Can you link that post please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, poole keith said: news on greyhound forum this evening that swindon closes 31st dec obviously not confirmed,with all sorts of problems at poole maybe stadia uk are going to concentrate on poor torquay !! Care to share Keith. If the tints ok it that is Edited November 6, 2018 by Bald Bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: Care to share Keith. If the tints ok it that is He might mean the redevelopment that is supposed to be happening around the stadium, near to the coach park..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Bald Bloke said: Care to share Keith. If the tints ok it that is without going into all the details,which would take pages,the greyhound industry, particularly the betting side, is in some turmoil,some tracks are going to make many many millions and others nothing, looking like swindon and poole are both in the second group,there are other issues as well.Stadia uk make very good money out of the speedway but it is only 20 evenings per yr,not enough to make the stadium viable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theblueboy Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, poole keith said: without going into all the details,which would take pages,the greyhound industry, particularly the betting side, is in some turmoil,some tracks are going to make many many millions and others nothing, looking like swindon and poole are both in the second group,there are other issues as well.Stadia uk make very good money out of the speedway but it is only 20 evenings per yr,not enough to make the stadium viable. Millions - greyhound racing, really? I have owned greyhounds and watched a lot of greyhound racing across the UK. Towcester, the home of the Derby has fallen by the wayside this year. That’s a grade 1 facility and track. Millions is not a phrase used within the greyhound fraternity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted November 6, 2018 Report Share Posted November 6, 2018 its been well reported that some tracks have been offered 20 /25 million contracts to provide racing for the next 4/5yrs,its all global now, tracks in uk now racing at 8am in the morning to provide pictures for foreign lands,big players have recently bought into betting markets in africa and scandinavia,serious money blueboy.(bye the way towcester was widely regarded as a bad running track,no camber and too wide,aimed at 8 dog races which didnt take off,also the horse grandstand was to far away from the track,certainly wasnt like the white city!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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