cinderfella Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Well the 16 riders have just been named and straight away I've got to ask why the hell is Craig Cook in it bearing in mind he has only ridden twice for Glasgow. He is obviously in on last years average (as in all honesty is Steve Worrall). Surely a minimum number of meetings must be undertaken before a rider is eligible as was the case in the Fours a few years back? Another cock up by BSPA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Well the 16 riders have just been named and straight away I've got to ask why the hell is Craig Cook in it bearing in mind he has only ridden twice for Glasgow. He is obviously in on last years average (as in all honesty is Steve Worrall). Surely a minimum number of meetings must be undertaken before a rider is eligible as was the case in the Fours a few years back? Another cock up by BSPA Because he is a Glasgow rider thought that it would be obvious. Why is it another cock up really fail to see what your gripe is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Gazc said: Because he is a Glasgow rider thought that it would be obvious. Why is it another cock up really fail to see what your gripe is. Why should being a Glasgow rider rider make any difference? ISheffield had been successful in getting Woofy would he have been handed a place having ridden maybe once for them because of the average he would have come in on? The fact Cookie has only ridden twice yet gets handed a place in the meeting is beyond a joke. Other riders work hard all season long in the quest of getting their averages high enough to qualify. Look at Richie Worrall as an example. been working hard all season, his average is higher than most handed a place. If you are going to put riders in on averages then put the highest 16 in regardless of who they ride for or if it is a rider from each team then they must have ridden in at least half of their teams fixtures before the selection date I'd suggest. My gripe is the BSPA are constantly messing Speedway up with inconsistent rulings and changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Why should being a Glasgow rider rider make any difference? ISheffield had been successful in getting Woofy would he have been handed a place having ridden maybe once for them because of the average he would have come in on? The fact Cookie has only ridden twice yet gets handed a place in the meeting is beyond a joke. Other riders work hard all season long in the quest of getting their averages high enough to qualify. Look at Richie Worrall as an example. been working hard all season, his average is higher than most handed a place. If you are going to put riders in on averages then put the highest 16 in regardless of who they ride for or if it is a rider from each team then they must have ridden in at least half of their teams fixtures before the selection date I'd suggest. My gripe is the BSPA are constantly messing Speedway up with inconsistent rulings and changes. To be honest I don't really bother what they do anymore as they will do it regardless it is what it is , take a deep breath and release and go and enjoy your speedway no point getting upset over what the BSPA do anymore. Edited August 20, 2018 by Gazc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gazc said: To be honest I don't really bother what they do anymore as they will do it regardless it is what it is , take a deep breath and release and go and enjoy your speedway no point getting upset over what the BSPA do anymore. It's 50 years next month since I saw my first meeting (Coatbridge v Glasgow) and when I think back over the years how much speedway has declined due to the mismanagement by BSP/SCB it's little wonder crowds, with the exception of Glasgow, seem to be falling away. Deep breath taken and will relax now at least until Friday lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 58 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Well the 16 riders have just been named and straight away I've got to ask why the hell is Craig Cook in it bearing in mind he has only ridden twice for Glasgow. He is obviously in on last years average (as in all honesty is Steve Worrall). Surely a minimum number of meetings must be undertaken before a rider is eligible as was the case in the Fours a few years back?Another cock up by BSPA Nope, it's a COOK up..... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, cinderfella said: It's 50 years next month since I saw my first meeting (Coatbridge v Glasgow) and when I think back over the years how much speedway has declined due to the mismanagement by BSP/SCB it's little wonder crowds, with the exception of Glasgow, seem to be falling away. Deep breath taken and will relax now at least until Friday lol Yep it is heart-breaking to watch how they manage to go from one balls up to another and still not get it right. Most learn from there mistakes but not this shower they stumble from one drama to the next, the carry on with Workington's fixtures this year is just not right and could have an impact on there future this has to be there most stupid ruling ever. I have been harping on about this for ages but Speedway will only move forward if an outside body takes over the whole shooting match and start from scratch, if not I fear for the sport in this country. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinderfella Posted August 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Gazc said: Yep it is heart-breaking to watch how they manage to go from one balls up to another and still not get it right. Most learn from there mistakes but not this shower they stumble from one drama to the next, the carry on with Workington's fixtures this year is just not right and could have an impact on there future this has to be there most stupid ruling ever. I have been harping on about this for ages but Speedway will only move forward if an outside body takes over the whole shooting match and start from scratch, if not I fear for the sport in this country. Yeah I think most fans have been wanting an independent ruling body for the last few years. Promoters will always be looking for what's best for their own team to the detriment of others as we have seen with the fixture fiasco this year. From what I hear there could be one or two clubs struggling to exist by next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, cinderfella said: Yeah I think most fans have been wanting an independent ruling body for the last few years. Promoters will always be looking for what's best for their own team to the detriment of others as we have seen with the fixture fiasco this year. From what I hear there could be one or two clubs struggling to exist by next season. Probably more than one or two and after the sad demise of Rye House this year any Championship teams looking to move up or being asked if they want to move up will be well advised to give that option a very wide body swerve. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, cinderfella said: Well the 16 riders have just been named and straight away I've got to ask why the hell is Craig Cook in it bearing in mind he has only ridden twice for Glasgow. He is obviously in on last years average (as in all honesty is Steve Worrall). Surely a minimum number of meetings must be undertaken before a rider is eligible as was the case in the Fours a few years back? Another cock up by BSPA Typical, what loks like a strong,wide open field that will be staged in excellent stadium for the event and could be a great day out and already folk picking fault ffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crump99 Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, montie said: Typical, what loks like a strong,wide open field that will be staged in excellent stadium for the event and could be a great day out and already folk picking fault ffs Seems a fair point though. Speedway's so good at giving people ammunition irrespective of the circumstances. Edited August 20, 2018 by Crump99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montie Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Crump99 said: Seems a fair point though. Speedway's so good at giving people ammunition irrespective of the circumstances. how is putting the leagues best riders in a competion not a good thing? seems folk just like to pick fault with speedway these days when infact its a bloody great sport 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Well if riders don't need to qualify they might as well make it an open meeting and invite who they want 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparks123 Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, montie said: how is putting the leagues best riders in a competion not a good thing? seems folk just like to pick fault with speedway these days when infact its a bloody great sport No probem with Cook but do you have any idea why Workington's top rider isn't in the field? It must be on the current green sheet averages as at present Aaron is above Kevin Doolan. If he has chose to miss the meeting along with the fours then I don't think he should be allowed to ride in our league next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevePark Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, sparks123 said: No probem with Cook but do you have any idea why Workington's top rider isn't in the field? It must be on the current green sheet averages as at present Aaron is above Kevin Doolan. If he has chose to miss the meeting along with the fours then I don't think he should be allowed to ride in our league next season. Poland, possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 Easy win for King Kevin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, cinderfella said: Well the 16 riders have just been named and straight away I've got to ask why the hell is Craig Cook in it bearing in mind he has only ridden twice for Glasgow. He is obviously in on last years average (as in all honesty is Steve Worrall). Surely a minimum number of meetings must be undertaken before a rider is eligible as was the case in the Fours a few years back? Another cock up by BSPA Are you having a laugh? Surely having the strongest possible line-up is a GOOD thing? I would suggest it's been done on the rolling averages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Man Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, lucifer sam said: Are you having a laugh? Surely having the strongest possible line-up is a GOOD thing? I would suggest it's been done on the rolling averages. This meeting has always been about qualification, with, not now I know, the number one rider from each team. it has never been about the top 16 riders in the averages, and there used to be criteria, i.e. a minimum number of matches for your team, before you could ride. now that seems to have been removed, surely just invite the top 16 riders in the league based on their averages and forget all other qualification criteria or better still get the top sixteen riders based on their averages at Sheffield, that should give you the best riders for the meeting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Just hope the track man doesn't spill his watering can on the track before the meeting otherwise cook will be looking for a call off. Edited August 20, 2018 by Spl77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer sam Posted August 20, 2018 Report Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, The Third Man said: This meeting has always been about qualification, with, not now I know, the number one rider from each team. it has never been about the top 16 riders in the averages, and there used to be criteria, i.e. a minimum number of matches for your team, before you could ride. now that seems to have been removed, surely just invite the top 16 riders in the league based on their averages and forget all other qualification criteria or better still get the top sixteen riders based on their averages at Sheffield, that should give you the best riders for the meeting Looks like it's the top (available) rider from each of the 11 clubs, plus the top five best No 2 riders. Both Craig Cook and Steve Worrall have 24 matches on their rolling averages. Why would you want to exclude them, when they've qualified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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