Sidney the robin Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pinny said: Speedy bill does really need to make it a bit less obvious he is Josh Auty. Embarrassing really. Wrong again.!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Fred Flange said: I think Zagar would have been better than Berge and Riss but he doesn't fit either. Etheridge was 4.15 and Drodz was 4.00. You do know about the points limit don't you? Yes but what was Drozdz at the start of the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Phil The Ace said: I don't get why you think I dislike auty. I do like him. He's a trier. And we all love a trier. I'd like him at belle vue but he cannot replace Cook Worrall Bewley Tungate Fricke And he can't replace them. He could have got in earlier In the season we know But you can't have him and tungate in the same thing unfortunately My point exactly Phil sorry that i presumed you did not like Auty got it wrong again maybe you can tell Freddie Flange the reason he could not be fitted in Rohan by the way i am a Rohan fan to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: Wrong again.!!! Really?! I dont think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acef Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 hours ago, speedy bill said: Phill you are so one sided about a rider who always gives value for money a real racer did you not see Nichols take him wide on first turn iif Nichols was the faster rider how come he only scored one point all night and he was not upset by Auty he never said a word ,Auty is a racer most are just riders so glad he rode so well might shut you up now He may give VFM but he doesn't give many points, certainly at the top level, and that has been statistically proven throughout his career. My grandmother is a really nice lady. I'm sure she'd also be a trier on the bike. Means f%%k all though, doesn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 8 hours ago, iainb said: How refreshing to see BV hold a minute's silence instead of the new fad of holding a minute's applause, taken from football just because some of their fans can't keep quiet and show some respect. Well done BV, better late than never Ah so that's where it's come from. I don't like it anyway as I can't keep clapping my hands together for a minute due to arthritis but I can keep quiet. They had a minutes applause at Peterborough recently and I had to stop half way through making me feel a bit disrespectful to the memory of Bob Dugard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted August 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 He rode better then his score suggests 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedy bill Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Pinny said: Speedy bill does really need to make it a bit less obvious he is Josh Auty. Embarrassing really. Get real mate Josh would not waste his time on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 15 hours ago, Fred Flange said: The experts thought he would be better than Auty and gave him a 5.00. I've been a fan of Auty since he was a kid but the fact is he, like so many promising British lads, just hasn't been able to use his obvious talent effectively. He's a much more naturally talented rider than, say, Madsen or Cook but Madsen is a top rider in Poland and won the sec the other day, Cook is probably not really good enough for the GP but he still qualified and has had a far more successful career, better than Auty could even dream about. He's at his level, decent second division rider who can have the odd good first division meeting but that's it. People who can gate like Madsen and Cook always have a chance of having good careers and both have.Madsen probably is not far of getting in the GP series and has been in good form generally all year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainB Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 16 hours ago, Gemini said: Ah so that's where it's come from. I don't like it anyway as I can't keep clapping my hands together for a minute due to arthritis but I can keep quiet. They had a minutes applause at Peterborough recently and I had to stop half way through making me feel a bit disrespectful to the memory of Bob Dugard. I tend to just do the minute's silence even if others are clapping. We don't have to do the clapping, we're a respectful bunch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 Surprised to see Auty have a decent top flight score. His real average up to that point was under 3 (according to speedway star) so this pretty much must have been a one off. his top flight career has generally always been beyond mediocre. Entertainer and fairly decent 2nd tier rider at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Surprised to see Auty have a decent top flight score. His real average up to that point was under 3 (according to speedway star) so this pretty much must have been a one off. his top flight career has generally always been beyond mediocre. Entertainer and fairly decent 2nd tier rider at best. 15 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Surprised to see Auty have a decent top flight score. His real average up to that point was under 3 (according to speedway star) so this pretty much must have been a one off. his top flight career has generally always been beyond mediocre. Entertainer and fairly decent 2nd tier rider at best. You take great delight in knocking Auty Steve, i don't know why he is averaging nearly a point more than your man Howarth in the PL.If the leagues did get together Auty would average more because some of the tracks in the PL are dreadful naming Swindon in amongst them you can't race for toffee.Swindon,Poole,Wolves ( a real homer massive home advantage) Leicester, are truly poor tracks now gate and go.In the PL you have a few tracks you can at least race on Scunthorpe/Somerset/Belle Vue(the best),.tracks easily the best in the U.K. Edited August 22, 2018 by Sidney the robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, stevebrum said: Surprised to see Auty have a decent top flight score. His real average up to that point was under 3 (according to speedway star) so this pretty much must have been a one off. his top flight career has generally always been beyond mediocre. Entertainer and fairly decent 2nd tier rider at best. and you never let us forget it either. do you have a problem with auty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sidney the robin said: You take great delight in knocking Auty Steve, i don't know why he is averaging nearly a point more than your man Howarth in the PL.If the leagues did get together Auty would average more because some of the tracks in the PL are dreadful naming Swindon in amongst them you can't race for toffee.Swindon,Poole,Wolves ( a real homer massive home advantage) Leicester, are truly poor tracks now gate and go.In the PL you have a few tracks you can at least race on Scunthorpe/Somerset/Belle Vue(the best),.tracks easily the best in the U.K. How is it knocking him? Howarth has been ahead of Auty in the 2nd tier the past 2 seasons. Howarth has had a much tougher season all round this season. I am talking only about the top flight. Howarth is now a proven 2nd string at that level. The ‘massive home track advantage’ argument I see popped up again. Last year Kyles home and away average were pretty similar so that completely disregards that point of view. BTW. You seem happy to point out Kyle’s flaws but it’s knocking a rider when I point it out? 3 minutes ago, therefused said: and you never let us forget it either. do you have a problem with auty? I have no problem with Auty. If pointing out his inability to make it in the top flight is ‘having a problem’ then there is no hope of having a sensible discussion. Already said he is a fairly decent 2nd tier rider and is having a much better season at that level this year. Take a look at his current 2018 top flight average and his top flight career if you really want to make a sensible discussion of ur. Plus the Auty is better than Howarth argument offered by some is beyond childish (not your comment) but one I’ve read from others several times on here over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Sidney the robin said: He is the number 1 at second tier level for Scunthorpe this year so give a little credit Charles Wright was the in/out number 1 at Sheffield.Howarth without that confidence of home form carrying that away would not have that average because dress it up as much as you like a lot of away riders despise going to Wolverhampton a real homer if i have seen one, I’ve already given credit STR as I said Josh is having a good season in the 2nd tier. ive already disproved your home advantage theory so dress it up all you want, Kyle is a proven top flight second string more than capable of scoring home or away. His home and away averages already show that. I think riders that ‘despise’ going to Wolves are very much in the minority. Very few are vocal of disliking the track other than the obvious ones. Most riders generally like Wolves and as we have lost at home this season isn’t the massive advantage some like to paint. Howarth has had an injury hit season so making no excuses for him this season. It’s what he does at this level is the only valid argument that’s applicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney the robin Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, stevebrum said: I’ve already given credit STR as I said Josh is having a good season in the 2nd tier. ive already disproved your home advantage theory so dress it up all you want, Kyle is a proven top flight second string more than capable of scoring home or away. His home and away averages already show that. I think riders that ‘despise’ going to Wolves are very much in the minority. Very few are vocal of disliking the track other than the obvious ones. Most riders generally like Wolves and as we have lost at home this season isn’t the massive advantage some like to paint. Howarth has had an injury hit season so making no excuses for him this season. It’s what he does at this level is the only valid argument that’s applicable. The Wolves track before the changes i can remember it being a decent track now it is the biggest homer in the PL by a mile.Lakeside/Eastie used to also have home advantage i think those two tracks have improved thank god Belle Vue now have the British Final a proper racetrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Sidney the robin said: The Wolves track before the changes i can remember it being a decent track now it is the biggest homer in the PL by a mile.Lakeside/Eastie used to also have home advantage i think those two tracks have improved thank god Belle Vue now have the British Final a proper racetrack. It’s all about preference anyway. As none of this is relevant to the thread there is no point in continuing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Sidney the robin said: The Wolves track before the changes i can remember it being a decent track now it is the biggest homer in the PL by a mile.Lakeside/Eastie used to also have home advantage i think those two tracks have improved thank god Belle Vue now have the British Final a proper racetrack. They are all there to be raced but take different skills from the rider to do so. Take the BV vs Leicester matches for example - Nicholls had no bother passing BV riders at Leicester but at BV only scored a point. Tracks are all there to be raced and I like the variety - if they were all the same it would bore me to death. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 I don’t think anybody is advocating all tracks to be the same, just that each track offers the chance for riders to race. Personally if you only got one race with passing every meeting it would bore me to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 22, 2018 Report Share Posted August 22, 2018 I don't know if all Swedish tracks are similar but last night's meeting was very good but last weeks was poor and bumpy, maybe quality of rider was better last night but the racing was definitely far better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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