Pirate Nick Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, sommelier said: Agree with your comments on the above riders, but if we are talking natural ability then Gollob was just another level! Can’t agree with that. IMO Darcy Ward was the most naturally talented rider I’ve seen, closely followed by Michael Lee and Shawn Moran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Pirate Nick said: Can’t agree with that. IMO Darcy Ward was the most naturally talented rider I’ve seen, closely followed by Michael Lee and Shawn Moran. Then we will agree to disagree, I've been fortunate enough to watch Gollob in his prime all over Europe and in particular Poland, Some of the skills of watching Gollob especially around Bydgoszcz was just simply sensational. And would have to put Kelly Moran above Shawn on NATURAL ability 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capone Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Arthur54 said: how do you spell that T H A T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 8 hours ago, foreverblue said: Don't worry we have Somerset at home bank Holiday Monday be back on top then Love a desperate prediction, just lose gracefully, you should be used to it by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Looks like it’s going to be Somersets to lose and in all honesty would take a major choke for them not to end up as champions. Nice try Ginge, Poole are still massive favourites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Pirate Nick said: Can’t agree with that. IMO Darcy Ward was the most naturally talented rider I’ve seen, closely followed by Michael Lee and Shawn Moran. Very difficult to compare riders from different years, The sport has changed so much it would be wrong to make comparisons like for like. I watched Michael Lee more than most and referred to him as god. There wasn't anything he couldn't do on a bike. Even the most daring moves, he would make look so easy. But would he have been so dominant had he been riding on todays bikes. Who knows?? Speaking with him, he says it's a totally different sport now to when he rode, and it would be wrong to make judgements. These bikes require a different skill, High revving speed machines, that needs the throttle open all the time. Darcy Ward, Shawn Moran, Thomas Gollob were all excellent riders in their time, But there are many more who could be included in any list of greatest riders. Robert Lambert has made big strides this year, and who knows how far he can go. Along with Dan Bewley I believe this country have two of the hottest talent about. Probably, in the future we will be talking about them being in the greatest lists as well.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Looks like it’s going to be Somersets to lose and in all honesty would take a major choke for them not to end up as champions. Probably true if they end up facing you lot in the final but they have failed to beat both Belle Vue and Lynn at home this year and would probably have to get past one of those so certainly no foregone conclusion. Still very open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Trackrat said: Nice try Ginge, Poole are still massive favourites. Didn't you watch last night? Somerset by far the better team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aviator Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, lisa-colette said: But at least he apologises to fans on twitter unlike some Aussies who have had more than one bad meeting for us this season. Also how come when Harris has a bad meeting he gets replaced in H13 but Brady never does!! Harris is not one of Middlo’s beloved Aussies... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Aviator said: Harris is not one of Middlo’s beloved Aussies... poor decision by middleditch taking bomber out anyway imo and i think klindt should have got the tac ride as well ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffeboy Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Then clearly the Somerset promotion set the track up to stop the Pirates racers from having any chance tonight. No outside passing at all. Always hear how good it is but the numerous meetings have never been spectacular. There is an old saying in sport, same for both sides. OTA is a good racing track , fact. The World Champion confirmed it. When your guys made a legit start you were competitive. Summers, Nico and Bradders all made passes. All of your top guys were poor tonight except Klindt , hence seven starts for Woryna, who also faded at the end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Somerset deserved the win. I still think these two teams will be in the final so it would be stupid for Poole to show their hand too soon. I would like to see the Rebels win the league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dornier Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 After watching the meeting Aces v Leicester which was conducted on a super smooth surface where riders could blast round at great speed it was a big come down to see the shocking state of the track at Somerset. I was lead to believe Somerset was one of the better tracks but apparently I was misled. I think its one of the roughest surfaces ever shown on BT sport .even worse than Pooles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Thoroughly enjoyed last nights telly match , and it told us quite a bit . Have Somerset got what ir takes to be champions ? - yes they have and i hope they do . Can Poole trust their heat leaders away from Dorset ? - no they cant . What about the riders ? Somerset Jason Doyle - back to his best Aaron Summers - steady performance Nico Covatti - came up with the big win when it mattered. Richard Lawson - as always looks the part when he gates Jack Holder - exciting to watch and forms a potent heat 13 pairing with Doyle . Allen and Wilson Dean are reliable reserves . Poole Brady Kurtz - jumps more starts than even James Sarjeant Josh Grajczonek - looks like a German porn star with that silly tache Richie Worrall - never convinced on the Oak Tree track as a Rebel and last night was just the same . Nicolai Klint - coping well out of the reserve position now Chris Harris - hard to watch great riders on the downward spiral Jacobsen and Woryna - did ok especially the young Pole 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shockster Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Last nights match was a poor spectacle for TV. Basically ride around the inside after the first bend if you have any sense. Think that sums it up. A pity as I've only ever seen good meetings at Somerset before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Shockster said: Last nights match was a poor spectacle for TV. Basically ride around the inside after the first bend if you have any sense. Think that sums it up. A pity as I've only ever seen good meetings at Somerset before. Then the rest of the track as one big circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 I’ve never liked tracks with a dominant inside line, you need a good one round the boards for good racing IMO. Not the worst telly match ever but didn’t live up to expectations unfortunately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackrat Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 It's because the away opposition was so poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersub Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 3 hours ago, ray c said: poor decision by middleditch taking bomber out anyway imo and i think klindt should have got the tac ride as well ? Have to agree Aviator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted August 21, 2018 Report Share Posted August 21, 2018 Bomber asked to be taken out because he couldn't get either of his 2 bikes to work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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