Sprocket Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Solidmango said: People seem to forget these guys don’t get paid if they don’t ride. It’s very easy to sit here and say they should’ve done this that and the next thing. Im sure the decision wasn’t taken lightly. Perhaps not lightly, but certainly far too late for all the paying public who have spent their time and money. I can't think of many other sports where this sort of situation would occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 However if there was even the hint that the riders could be fined for either "withholding services" or "bringing sport into disrepute" there would have at least some riders out testing the track instead of armwaving nonsense & no comment to public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Seems as if it could have been cook refusing to ride that played a major part if twitter is to be believed. You would have thought he would want to see British speedway survive as he has no chance of earning a living from the Grand prix, speedway World Cup or Polish league judging by his performances in these competitions. Very over rated! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Spl77 said: Seems as if it could have been cook refusing to ride that played a major part if twitter is to be believed. You would have thought he would want to see British speedway survive as he has no chance of earning a living from the Grand prix, speedway World Cup or Polish league judging by his performances in these competitions. Very over rated! According to Harris no one wanted to race on it, so not just cook....no one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badge Posted August 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Baldyman said: According to Harris no one wanted to race on it, so not just cook....no one. Hate to call Harris a liar but Richard Lawson said he would have ridden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk127 Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Solidmango said: People seem to forget these guys don’t get paid if they don’t ride. It’s very easy to sit here and say they should’ve done this that and the next thing. Im sure the decision wasn’t taken lightly. No one forgets this but unless the conditions are perfect the riders are refusing to get a meeting on. If they perceive the risks are too great and this is becoming the norm where anything other than perfect conditions (which is a personal rider view rather than a collective team view) is an excuse not to ride then find another job. This simply did not happen in years gone by but today’s riders are unwilling to give it a go and if they fear they cannot control the machines then it is something that they need to deal with and adapt the bikes accordingly but it is not the paying public who should be punished for these riders lack of skills in tackling the conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Chris Louis has apologised to fans via twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 I went to the IOW tonight. The track was a bit tricky early doors, but the riders just got on with it. After the first tractor grade it was fine. It does seem to be a different sport at NL level. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argos Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 34 minutes ago, Solidmango said: People seem to forget these guys don’t get paid if they don’t ride. It’s very easy to sit here and say they should’ve done this that and the next thing. Im sure the decision wasn’t taken lightly. How do you make that out? Tonight hasn’t cost the riders anything it will be rerun, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) On 8/16/2018 at 10:34 PM, Badge said: Hate to call Harris a liar but Richard Lawson said he would have ridden Maybe Richard told you what you wanted to hear, behind the scenes though. Edited August 17, 2018 by Gazc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WembleyLion Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Sprocket said: I couldn't hear any bikes being warmed up, and Glasgow not even changed. You have to wonder if certain riders had already made their minds up! I’m sorry to say that in recent times I have seen a bit more of this not getting changed tactic deployed by riders! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Baldyman said: According to Harris no one wanted to race on it, so not just cook....no one. 30 minutes ago, Badge said: Hate to call Harris a liar but Richard Lawson said he would have ridden Harris not necessarily lying, Lawson might well have said he would have ridden, although he might not have wanted to. Agree riders are now more reluctant to ride in adverse conditions, but imo this is because today's machines are faster than before and are more difficult to control on less than perfect track surfaces. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Really disappointed the match was postponed. I really hate rain offs and even more annoying in view of the great weather weve had for once throughout the UK. However a bit surprised by some of the comments on here saying that in the good old days riders would have given it a go. in the good old days bikes were diferent and it seems that modern bikes and therefore modern riders can't cope with wet or heavy conditions. Fans also complain that the sport is ftg in most races. Well one thing is for sure in wet conditions it would become a gaters paradise. do fans really want to see a boring match in poor conditions? as someone else said this is about getting meetings completed before the play-offs when it should be about entertaining the public. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Hawk127 said: No one forgets this but unless the conditions are perfect the riders are refusing to get a meeting on. If they perceive the risks are too great and this is becoming the norm where anything other than perfect conditions (which is a personal rider view rather than a collective team view) is an excuse not to ride then find another job. This simply did not happen in years gone by but today’s riders are unwilling to give it a go and if they fear they cannot control the machines then it is something that they need to deal with and adapt the bikes accordingly but it is not the paying public who should be punished for these riders lack of skills in tackling the conditions. Agree,that's the reason I don't leave the house if there is a cloud in the sky,the people running the the sport and the riders have brought this situation on themselves,there technical solutions regarding Machinary and Track prep but the head is in the sand from the people running the show.There will be an excess of riders in GB just shortly.Sad days. Edited August 17, 2018 by Fromafar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulco Posted August 16, 2018 Report Share Posted August 16, 2018 Where was the referee when all this head shaking and track kicking was going on ? Does the referee not have the final say on whether a meeting is off or on anymore ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin Jason 72 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Chris gay asked both captains their opinions. If one side were prepared to ride he was going to get the meeting started however after initially being prepared to ride the Ipswich team seemed to be swayed to change their minds by their captain. I agree that rider safety is paramount but I was present last night unlike a few of the posters defending the riders. Danny king said he would have given it a go as did Richard Lawson. They should have at least tried. To not even try is inexcusable. Nobody would be complaining if they had a go and then said no. At this rate the riders won’t have a sport left in s couple of years. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spl77 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Surly not fairweather moaning Schlien? Make King none riding captain. I too was present for the first time this year to see Kemp make his debut. I will be present next week as I have already paid. 10 minutes of practice on that last night and it would have been fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 After last night... more reason the sport in this country should be semi pro. Riders like Cook and Schlein influencing others shouldn't be allowed just because they don't want to. If they don't like it... there's no place for them in British speedway... not that there will be much left if they continue to act like they did last night. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Paulco said: Where was the referee when all this head shaking and track kicking was going on ? Does the referee not have the final say on whether a meeting is off or on anymore ? The ref was pretty much on and around the track the whole time the prep was going on and allegedly thought it was OK to give it a go. In my opinion and most of those around me it appeared that Glasgow (1 rider particularly) had no intention of riding and slowly but surely persuaded everyone else to follow suit. Obviously that's speculation as we couldn't hear what was being said but being allowed in and paying it was disappointing to say the least! Lets hope not too many travelled from up north, its them I feel for mostly as I can use my readmission ticket next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 So after last night will Chris be looking to change who his captain is???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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