Adding a 1 week extension onto the cut-off date'

[Najjer]

47 minutes ago, ray c said:

because of fixed race nights the team you want to ride is already riding another team like last thursday when we had to ride on a of night we was slagged off . fixed dont work in that situation

There has been loads of times when nobody has ridden though. Fixed race nights makes it much easy for planning as there is no need to check rider availability.

[ray c]

Still all it proves is that the sport we follow is poorly run 

[g13webb]

To  give people an understanding of our fixture congestion , tonight is our designated race night,  yet there is  only 1 fixture. ( Somerset v Belle Vue)…  

Kings Lynn, Poole, Leicester, Wolves and Swindon are not riding because of  their riders availability.    Tomorrow  Swindon play Belle Vue  but this typifies the problems  that was created when the BSPA voted to have FRN on a Wednesday.   .  

[Daniel Smith]

The season needs to start by March 1st. Run the Ben Fund meeting on that day every year then every team has fixtures by March 2nd. September 15th the cut off for league fixtures. This should be rigid, never altered. 

From March 2nd > May 31st every club must have 1 home fixture a fortnight minimum scheduled.

From June 1st > August 31st every club must have a home fixture schedule weekly. This includes leaving dates open for rain-offs on "off race nights".

There is absolutely NO excuse for running out of dates and needing double headers.

All rider's should be contracted and available to race British Premiership Speedway every Monday and/or Wednesday, (possibly Thursday and/or Friday in 2019).

If away teams do not have a fixture planned on an available rescheduled date by the home team the date CANNOT be refused by the away team.

People blame fixed race night's for the problem but the issue is with fixture planning and the rider's the clubs have employed. We've had this problem year on year, long before fixed race night's even existed. Fixed race night's ain't the problem, Sweden and Poland manage to get it sorted. 

[SteveLyric2]

3 minutes ago, g13webb said:

To  give people an understanding of our fixture congestion , tonight is our designated race night,  yet there is  only 1 fixture. ( Somerset v Belle Vue)…  

Kings Lynn, Poole, Leicester, Wolves and Swindon are not riding because of  their riders availability.    Tomorrow  Swindon play Belle Vue  but this typifies the problems  that was created when the BSPA voted to have FRN on a Wednesday.   .  

...but some of those teams rode at home on Monday and don 't have a problem fitting their remaining home fixtures in!!

[Daniel Smith]

7 minutes ago, Skidder1 said:

...but some of those teams rode at home on Monday and don 't have a problem fitting their remaining home fixtures in!!

It's only King's Lynn that's playing up with 5 remaining home fixtures. Somerset have 5 remaining also which they have sorted apart from one. Guess which club is holding that situation up? No prizes for the correct answer  Every other Premiership team have 3 or less home fixtures left so no problems for them.

I'm fully expecting Wednesday 5th September to also be a double header for King's Lynn again Leicester.

[WembleyLion]

4 hours ago, Najjer said:

There has been loads of times when nobody has ridden though. Fixed race nights makes it much easy for planning as there is no need to check rider availability.

Agreed - the problem is nothing to do with fixed race nights as it happens every year. Last year for instance Rye House went weeks without meetings and then ran a third of their home meetings in 8 days just to squeeze them in by the deadline!

[Starman2006]

10 hours ago, thecoombdog said:

I couldn't agree more. The rubbish weather in Oct must affect the play off crowds. If the final was the 1st week of Sep then there is a much better chance of better weather.

Speedway should run from Mid April to mid September, then the play off's and done and dusted.

[Fromafar]

3 hours ago, Richard Weston said:

Simple...if a rider wishes to compete in Sweden, Poland, Denmark, or anywhere you care to name, let them. Fine, off you go.

If you are a top level rider and wish to compete in this country's second division....fine, off you go.

But, in both cases you wouldn't ride for me in the top league.

If you sign for my club, our interests come first.

Terry Russell said something similar in the Speedway Star. I don't always agree with what he says/does but on this point he was bang on.

If you are an Aussie rider, don't expect a UK club to pay for you to come to Britain and then sign for a Polish club.

Oh, dear rider: can't make a living? Well slope off to Poland and/or Sweden (good luck with that) or get a job and ride speedway part time, like most riders did when the sport was great.

Let British speedway see what it has got in terms of riders come January 1, 2019 and go from there.

Totally fed up with riders dictating.

 

 

I agree riders are dictating the sport,but Promotions don't seem to want to come together to sort it out season after season.Self interest rules.

[ray c]

Perhaps if we had stuck to Monday and Thursday this problem may not have arisen ?

[Aviator]

14 hours ago, Daniel Smith said:

The season needs to start by March 1st. Run the Ben Fund meeting on that day every year then every team has fixtures by March 2nd. September 15th the cut off for league fixtures. This should be rigid, never altered. 

From March 2nd > May 31st every club must have 1 home fixture a fortnight minimum scheduled.

From June 1st > August 31st every club must have a home fixture schedule weekly. This includes leaving dates open for rain-offs on "off race nights".

There is absolutely NO excuse for running out of dates and needing double headers.

All rider's should be contracted and available to race British Premiership Speedway every Monday and/or Wednesday, (possibly Thursday and/or Friday in 2019).

If away teams do not have a fixture planned on an available rescheduled date by the home team the date CANNOT be refused by the away team.

People blame fixed race night's for the problem but the issue is with fixture planning and the rider's the clubs have employed. We've had this problem year on year, long before fixed race night's even existed. Fixed race night's ain't the problem, Sweden and Poland manage to get it sorted. 

I completely agree with this post, unfortunately, as long as you have people like the beast from the east “in charge” of uk speedway things will NOT change.. 

[Najjer]

20 minutes ago, ray c said:

Perhaps if we had stuck to Monday and Thursday this problem may not have arisen ?

The only riders currently effected by Wednesdays are Danish riders, who don't ride every week anyway. If the Thursday night went ahead as planned with the ridiculous idea of Thursday Championship clubs riding and taking priority there would be an even bigger problem. As I've said before, a 2nd division should never take priority over the top division. It's absolute criminal that after last night Belle Vue winning at Somerset they now go to Swindon without Craig Cook who is riding for Glasgow.

[Najjer]

11 hours ago, WembleyLion said:

Agreed - the problem is nothing to do with fixed race nights as it happens every year. Last year for instance Rye House went weeks without meetings and then ran a third of their home meetings in 8 days just to squeeze them in by the deadline!

And then they wonder why they lost money.....

[Chris116]

I believe football fixtures are dictated by the authorities, not by clubs making agreements between each other. 

If the SGB Premiership continues with fixed race nights then the simple way to solve future fixture problems would be for teams to have to declare any dates they are not available at the start of the season. Clubs would then be given the dates of their fixtures. Two home meetings a month with a third date each month for any rain offs. If a meeting is rained off then it is automatically moved to the next rain off date at the track that the away team are not racing on. Two teams my by mutual agreement move a fixture by a maximum of three weeks either before or after the planned date but this must be announced at least six weeks before the original date so that fans can plan their travel arrangements without the worry of last minute changes except those caused by the weather. 

Plan all fixtures to be completed by the end of August with the first two weeks in September kept clear to run any rained off fixtures. The Play offs could then be run over the following four weeks. If we have Monday and Wednesday as fixed race nights then all play off matches would be on Wednesday with the following Monday as the rain off date. 

All the BSPA need to do is to ask the Football League if they can use the computer program which football use to generate their fixture list. 

[cityrebel]

1 hour ago, Najjer said:

And then they wonder why they lost money.....

The riders pull the strings in this country, it's as simple as that.

[John Scrutton]

The B S P A  is NOT a one man organisation  I think it is at leased 5 strong and ALL members have to agree on all things  

[pointsmeanplayoffs]

If the Stars were sitting 4th in the table, 2 pts clear of Poole in 5th with a fixture against Poole to be re-arranged, why would Stars want to run the meeting and risk losing a play-off spot?

This is just an example of what could (and let's face it knowing the level of self-interest which exists in our sport) and most probably will happen.

It's a mockery. 

 

 

[ray c]

Yes I think Keith Chapman is being unfairly singled out

[Hawk127]

These were just five fixtures in the Premiership from the 8th August to Monday 13th

8th - Kings Lynn v Belle Vue / Swindon v Leicester

9th - Poole v Leicester

13th - Leicester v Belle Vue / Poole v Somerset

And yet Still outstanding from A fixtures based on SS are the following

KL v Leicester / KL v Wolverhampton / Swindon v Belle Vue

The B fixtures still to be run

Belle Vue have five fixture (after taking into account Somerset yesterday) ( 3 home 2 away)

KL have six (3 home and 3 away)

Leicester have four (2 home and 2 away)

Poole have six (3 home and 3 away)

Somerset have seven (4 home 3 away)

Swindon have three (2 home 1 away)

Wolverhampton have seven (3 home 4 away)

You have to question why by the third week of August so many fixtures are still to be run when there have been so many blank dates throughout most weeks since May and with some A fixtures still to be completed, it is a farce. Set cut off dates and that is it. The clubs really need to organise themselves better. 

[Daniel Smith]

1 hour ago, Hawk127 said:

These were just five fixtures in the Premiership from the 8th August to Monday 13th

8th - Kings Lynn v Belle Vue / Swindon v Leicester

9th - Poole v Leicester

13th - Leicester v Belle Vue / Poole v Somerset

And yet Still outstanding from A fixtures based on SS are the following

KL v Leicester / KL v Wolverhampton / Swindon v Belle Vue

The B fixtures still to be run

Belle Vue have five fixture (after taking into account Somerset yesterday) ( 3 home 2 away)

KL have six (3 home and 3 away)

Leicester have four (2 home and 2 away)

Poole have six (3 home and 3 away)

Somerset have seven (4 home 3 away)

Swindon have three (2 home 1 away)

Wolverhampton have seven (3 home 4 away)

You have to question why by the third week of August so many fixtures are still to be run when there have been so many blank dates throughout most weeks since May and with some A fixtures still to be completed, it is a farce. Set cut off dates and that is it. The clubs really need to organise themselves better. 

The answer to your question is there's far to many Danish rider's in the Premiership and clubs won't run on a Wednesday because these rider's would be missing