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Somerset vs Belle Vue Premiership 15/08/18


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46 minutes ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Having read that, hopefully the racing is as good on Monday with BT there. Nearly every time I have been there the racing hasn’t been mediocre.

You’re very unlucky then, far more good meetings at the Oak Tree & very few mediocre

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8 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

No one saw that coming. Bizarre how they fail at Leicester but succeed at Somerset!

maybe they still have enough fight for the top 4?

If they got to the play offs they’d be a danger but having the NSS as a home track wouldn’t help

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1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Well really shocking result i don't know how you lose at the bottom club and win at a top club but that's the beauty of speedway. 

 

31 minutes ago, stevebrum said:

No one saw that coming. Bizarre how they fail at Leicester but succeed at Somerset!

maybe they still have enough fight for the top 4?

Possibly because one was a gate and go track and the other a race track or maybe it was just one of those nights at Leicester. The meeting before Leicester was at Kings Lynn and we were unfortunate not to pick up a point there, so Leicester is the exception not the rule.

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4 hours ago, oldtimer said:

First visit to Oak Tree in about 3 years, surprised by the large crowd, much bigger than I remember when used to attend every week, obviously the cost has not put people off. Track looked great, and improvements in the music, louder, you could actually hear it, and a better choice of tunes, no long interval after heat 12, and only a few track grades. Not the best meeting I have seen but the Doyle, Cook clashes were out of the top drawer.  Belle Vue deserved to win having most of the heat wins and if Cook had not touched the tapes and Bewley new how to gate they would have won easier. 

I think the problem with Bewley not being able to gate is the belt drive type clutch ...99% of riders use NEB chain drive clutch and all GP riders use NEB chain drive ... maybe he should try an NEB clutch..

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8 hours ago, Aces51 said:

 

Possibly because one was a gate and go track and the other a race track or maybe it was just one of those nights at Leicester. The meeting before Leicester was at Kings Lynn and we were unfortunate not to pick up a point there, so Leicester is the exception not the rule.

Don’t think that is the case, someone said if Bewley could gate you would have won easier last night and Cook is a good gater so what was his excuse at Leicester. 

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11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said:

Having read that, hopefully the racing is as good on Monday with BT there. Nearly every time I have been there the racing has been mediocre.

Pot, kettle, I don't think you have any room to talk considering the state of Wimborne Road's track

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1 hour ago, foreverblue said:

Don’t think that is the case, someone said if Bewley could gate you would have won easier last night and Cook is a good gater so what was his excuse at Leicester. 

I don't understand your point about Bewley. It was easier for him to pass riders at Somerset than at Leicester because Somerset is a race track and Leicester isn't. With regard to Cook at Leicester, in his first race he got filled in on the first bend, his tear off malfunctioned so he rode the entire race blind and finished third. In his second ride he was about to take the lead when he had an EF, then in his third ride he had a poor start but got up to second, tried to blast around the leading rider, overcooked it and fell. He then withdrew from the meeting.

 

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A bit of a walk up call for the Rebels last night, Doyle and Wilson Dean apart. Feel sorry for Covatti riding at number 3 as he should be a reserve, but Allen seems to have taken up residence there.

The Rebels certainly left their gating boots behind last night, and some of their engines sounded decidely flat,  hence the speed that the Belle Vue boys were passing the Rebels.

Only five heats were won by the Rebels last night four by Doyle and one by Holder, which on your own track is poor, hopefully it's a blip!

 

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22 minutes ago, Aces51 said:

I don't understand your point about Bewley. It was easier for him to pass riders at Somerset than at Leicester because Somerset is a race track and Leicester isn't. With regard to Cook at Leicester, in his first race he got filled in on the first bend, his tear off malfunctioned so he rode the entire race blind and finished third. In his second ride he was about to take the lead when he had an EF, then in his third ride he had a poor start but got up to second, tried to blast around the leading rider, overcooked it and fell. He then withdrew from the meeting.

 

Garry May made the point last night that if any track is like NSS, its Somerset. He's right.

However poor Cook was at Leicester, he was just sublime last night. Not once did he enter the first turn in front and to pick off the likes of Doyle and Holder on their own track had him at his very best (the only criticism I would make was that he could have been a bit more ruthless (as Doyle was)). You could tell from his after meeting interview he was pleased, both with his own performance and that of the team. 

Whatever the case, it was a cracking meeting in front of a very decent crowd with credit going to both teams and Somerset Speedway. 

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Rare off night for Jack hopefully.  The one that is concerning me is Lawson, who has not had a good meet for us for ages. Our reserves are normally top notch  but looks like Berge done the buis  as well.  Don’t want to be too critical cos I’m not there, but from what I’m hearing a collective off night after a great show against Poole Monday. Six points req now from the next two next week. 

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Great effort from the lads last night and should we sneak into the play offs a final with the two teams would be a mouth watering event over the two legs. 

If we do sneak in and end up with Poole then as Monday showed we just can’t do it on the gate and go circuits, so it would be heartache again for the (R)ACES. 

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24 minutes ago, Aces51 said:

I don't understand your point about Bewley. It was easier for him to pass riders at Somerset than at Leicester because Somerset is a race track and Leicester isn't. With regard to Cook at Leicester, in his first race he got filled in on the first bend, his tear off malfunctioned so he rode the entire race blind and finished third. In his second ride he was about to take the lead when he had an EF, then in his third ride he had a poor start but got up to second, tried to blast around the leading rider, overcooked it and fell. He then withdrew from the meeting.

 

Because he scored more points at Leicester, maybe he didn't find it that easy to pass at Somerset either. Fair points about Cook but he is a good gater so a bit strange he struggled at a gaters track.

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3 minutes ago, ouch said:

Great effort from the lads last night and should we sneak into the play offs a final with the two teams would be a mouth watering event over the two legs. 

If we do sneak in and end up with Poole then as Monday showed we just can’t do it on the gate and go circuits, so it would be heartache again for the (R)ACES. 

You will need to win tonight to have a chance of sneaking in to the play offs in my opinion. Poole is a long way from a gate and go track .

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35 minutes ago, ouch said:

Great effort from the lads last night and should we sneak into the play offs a final with the two teams would be a mouth watering event over the two legs. 

If we do sneak in and end up with Poole then as Monday showed we just can’t do it on the gate and go circuits, so it would be heartache again for the (R)ACES. 

Purely from an entertainment viewpoint Aces v Rebels would be the perfect final.

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I fully see the bigger picture thanks. It was not a criticism of Bewley  he is a extremely good prospect who has had a great season and has a great chance of going all the way in the sport and good luck to him. Just comparing a gate and go track to Somerset which is meant to be a good racetrack where gating shouldn't be so important and his scores were similar.

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14 hours ago, Batman65 said:

I think the problem with Bewley not being able to gate is the belt drive type clutch ...99% of riders use NEB chain drive clutch and all GP riders use NEB chain drive ... maybe he should try an NEB clutch..

I was just going to suggest that

 

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