tellboy Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: TBH I didn't know Art.18.10.1 If the absent rider is in the top 1-5 of the team, then the missing rider's MA (if established) will be enhanced by +5% at a home meeting to determine the allowance for the guest rider That is from the green sheet averages on the BSPA site 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Daniel Smith said: Last season as a season ticket holder I was proper ripped off and I have a right to be bitter. This season the management has made promise after promise for things they shouldn't be promising. They think they can call the shots on the Dane's own rider's. Who do they really think they are??? They're now reaping what they sow. They were warned but think they knew better. I have NO sympathy for the management of King's Lynn Stars. How much did you loose due to Buster. Not yourself deciding not to go 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Buster cost me £1000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 About £42 down on those that paid on the gate. This season's season ticket holder's are also down, currently £27 on those that pay at the gate. Then we're likely to see the Leicester fixture in September become a double header due to lack of available dates so that's likely to increase further. 10 minutes ago, Bald Bloke said: How much did you loose due to Buster. Not yourself deciding not to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 If Wolves want to be in the play offs we need to take the 8 points on offer. wont get a better chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starboy118 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 6 hours ago, The Stag said: Yet again egg on the face of all the promoters (numpty's) who agreed for FRN's on a Wednesday, and who does it affect the most???? Us the mugs they call fans! I for one didn't criticise the double header as it's obvious that there aren't many other options and I was actually looking forward to it. Iversen now missing = Joke!! But as we've already been told, hindsight is a wonderful thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 13 hours ago, Trees said: Hmmmm, christ sakes, thanks Denmark, no point getting a BV rider in, who would want to be a British Speedway Premiership manager, hope Dale wants to continue next season, this is no walk in the park eh!! You really are the most blinkered KL fan of all time - all well and good supporting the team but wake up and smell the coffee for once . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haza Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: About £42 down on those that paid on the gate. This season's season ticket holder's are also down, currently £27 on those that pay at the gate. Then we're likely to see the Leicester fixture in September become a double header due to lack of available dates so that's likely to increase further. That says it all - anyone who lays there hard earned cash out up front to a speedway club for a season ticket should be looked after as a most valued fan the club should be bending over backwards for any season ticket holders not s$$t on them from the highest level . Feel really sad that as a club Kings Lynn treats it season ticket holders in such a way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: Yes he will and the only thing to save him will be the weather. Personally, I hope the weather is glorious and he does lose money hand over fist, it's not short of what the management deserve over the last couple of seasons. Treat fan's with respect and they will get that in return. Treat fan's with contempt, expect $#!+ to fly back in your face. With comments like yours, you should be ashamed of yourself wishing for a club to lose money. IF I was BC & read your post, even if you decided to visit Lynn again, I would give you a LIFE time ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) This season could have been the best we have witnessed for a long time. Eight teams, all of similar strength and each capable of winning matches. It was even suggested each team had a chance of winning the league. It was to be that competitive. The FIM had opened the door, prioritising our race days, giving us the freedom of fixture planning. The ball was firmly in BSPA's court to make this a season to remember. Then WHAM !! at the AGM , the members take a vote that destroys everything. This vote should never have been sanctioned. The BSPA should have been strong enough to implement the FIM guidelines, and instructed teams that the FRN will be Monday and Thursdays. The fixture schedule would be free to use every week to amply plan the fixtures, even giving allowances for cancellations. That vote on Wed or Thurs, although it was seen only as a preferred race night for CL teams, was in actual fact far greater importance than that. It was a vote on not using Danish riders and riding on a night we have no priority. It was obvious from the outset this could only create problems. Talk about a sport shooting it self in the foot. Here we are with less then a 3 weeks to go, and we still have 22 matches to run. That in its self is an utter farce. There is no way all these fixture will be completed. The first of DH's has been arranged for next week, and because of that vote about priority, there will be riders missing.. If teams are unable to fulfil their fixtures, the season loses all creditability. What could have been a monumental season is destined to end in disaster. All because of that mindless VOTE !!! Edited August 18, 2018 by g13webb 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: About £42 down on those that paid on the gate. This season's season ticket holder's are also down, currently £27 on those that pay at the gate. Then we're likely to see the Leicester fixture in September become a double header due to lack of available dates so that's likely to increase further. I know how you feel Danny, when I asked for a free program because I was losing out when BT where there and admission prices where reduced I was told not to be so silly ! never again will I buy another season ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 hours ago, Daniel Smith said: I have NO sympathy for the management of King's Lynn Stars. Improper use of the word "management" there Daniel! They could not manage a what's it in a thingimabob. I too have no sympathy for those who call themselves management at KLS. Just as they have no empathy with the fans, nor concern about what they think. If Leicester is likely to be a doubleheader and again V the same team, fewer and fewer will be paying to watch. Perhaps the gate income is genuinely not so important nowadays? What a mess at King's Lynn and throughout UK speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 I don’t understand why anyone would by a season ticket nowadays. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I don’t understand why anyone would by a season ticket nowadays. Me neither must admit..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, g13webb said: This season could have been the best we have witnessed for a long time. Eight teams, all of similar strength and each capable of winning matches. It was even suggested each team had a chance of winning the league. It was to be that competitive. The FIM had opened the door, prioritising our race days, giving us the freedom of fixture planning. The ball was firmly in BSPA's court to make this a season to remember. Then WHAM !! at the AGM , the members take a vote that destroys everything. This vote should never have been sanctioned. The BSPA should have been strong enough to implement the FIM guidelines, and instructed teams that the FRN will be Monday and Thursdays. The fixture schedule would be free to use every week to amply plan the fixtures, even giving allowances for cancellations. That vote on Wed or Thurs, although it was seen only as a preferred race night for CL teams, was in actual fact far greater importance than that. It was a vote on not using Danish riders and riding on a night we have no priority. It was obvious from the outset this could only create problems. Talk about a sport shooting it self in the foot. Here we are with less then a 3 weeks to go, and we still have 22 matches to run. That in its self is an utter farce. There is no way all these fixture will be completed. The first of DH's has been arranged for next week, and because of that vote about priority, there will be riders missing.. If teams are unable to fulfil their fixtures, the season loses all creditability. What could have been a monumental season is destined to end in disaster. All because of that mindless VOTE !!! Most of this comes about because individual promoters are just interested in themselves.It's a look after number one policy first and then they may think about looking after speedway in general after. 34 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I don’t understand why anyone would by a season ticket nowadays. Yes totally agree,don't think it's much of a saving nowadays anyway is it?Maybe if you have to miss one match anyway the saving is gone.Most people would have to miss at least one match during the season for a number of reasons.So this is why i didn't really expect people to take up the offer of season tickets anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, g13webb said: This season could have been the best we have witnessed for a long time. Eight teams, all of similar strength and each capable of winning matches. It was even suggested each team had a chance of winning the league. It was to be that competitive. The FIM had opened the door, prioritising our race days, giving us the freedom of fixture planning. The ball was firmly in BSPA's court to make this a season to remember. Then WHAM !! at the AGM , the members take a vote that destroys everything. This vote should never have been sanctioned. The BSPA should have been strong enough to implement the FIM guidelines, and instructed teams that the FRN will be Monday and Thursdays. The fixture schedule would be free to use every week to amply plan the fixtures, even giving allowances for cancellations. That vote on Wed or Thurs, although it was seen only as a preferred race night for CL teams, was in actual fact far greater importance than that. It was a vote on not using Danish riders and riding on a night we have no priority. It was obvious from the outset this could only create problems. Talk about a sport shooting it self in the foot. Here we are with less then a 3 weeks to go, and we still have 22 matches to run. That in its self is an utter farce. There is no way all these fixture will be completed. The first of DH's has been arranged for next week, and because of that vote about priority, there will be riders missing.. If teams are unable to fulfil their fixtures, the season loses all creditability. What could have been a monumental season is destined to end in disaster. All because of that mindless VOTE !!! Most of this comes about because individual promoters are just interested in themselves.It's a look after number one policy first and then they may think about looking after speedway in general after. 34 minutes ago, Bagpuss said: I don’t understand why anyone would by a season ticket nowadays. Yes totally agree,don't think it's much of a saving nowadays anyway is it?Maybe if you have to miss one match anyway the saving is gone.Most people would have to miss at least one match during the season for a number of reasons.So this is why i didn't really expect people to take up the offer of season tickets anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted August 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 Plus with the uncertainty over fixtures, when they’ll be run, if at all, which riders will be missing etc etc. Just far too risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 I don't blame Lynn for the FRN vote, but they must accept some of the blame about the fixture congestion. To agree to run a Double Header can only be as a last resort. To agree to do it against the same team is madness, but to do it without your top rider (Niels) , or your top reserve (MPT) is totally pointless. Riding without those two riders we are easy picking for any of the teams, surely it would make more sense to ride a single match against Wolves ( as originally planned) and invite Wolves back as the second match when we play against Poole the following week. Least that way we only give Wolves one easy match opportunity instead of 2. Surely it cant be fair on other teams if we are force to field a weaker team, especially on a run in to the POs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, g13webb said: I don't blame Lynn for the FRN vote, but they must accept some of the blame about the fixture congestion. To agree to run a Double Header can only be as a last resort. To agree to do it against the same team is madness, but to do it without your top rider (Niels) , or your top reserve (MPT) is totally pointless. Riding without those two riders we are easy picking for any of the teams, surely it would make more sense to ride a single match against Wolves ( as originally planned) and invite Wolves back as the second match when we play against Poole the following week. Least that way we only give Wolves one easy match opportunity instead of 2. Surely it cant be fair on other teams if we are force to field a weaker team, especially on a run in to the POs It's getting tricky now to get the fixtures in,Wolves are at Somerset when we ride against Poole.If it wasn't for FRN Wolves would have been at Somerset on a Friday no doubt and we would have been able to race them on that Wednesday. Edited August 18, 2018 by tellboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, g13webb said: I don't blame Lynn for the FRN vote, but they must accept some of the blame about the fixture congestion. To agree to run a Double Header can only be as a last resort. To agree to do it against the same team is madness, but to do it without your top rider (Niels) , or your top reserve (MPT) is totally pointless. Riding without those two riders we are easy picking for any of the teams, surely it would make more sense to ride a single match against Wolves ( as originally planned) and invite Wolves back as the second match when we play against Poole the following week. Least that way we only give Wolves one easy match opportunity instead of 2. Surely it cant be fair on other teams if we are force to field a weaker team, especially on a run in to the POs The reason we're not getting fixtures in is because the club are avoiding clashes with Denmark. Nothing to do with FRN as other clubs are not having the same fixture pile up. The management are to blame fully for the situation, even without FRN last season we had the farce of 2 panic double headers in 2017. They chose to use Danish rider's, reap what you sow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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