ancient mariner Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Shaggy said: Could be the last we see of Boxall Perhaps a bit like Danny Bird who never paid his fine and therefore his ban has continued indefinitely. That said, has Boxall been fined? Shocking waste of talent Edited August 10, 2018 by ancient mariner 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 27 minutes ago, cityrebel said: I was at Kent on Monday, and it certainly was a bizarre situation. It reminded me of being at Eastbourne when Kelly Moran was a little worse for wear. ...Remember it well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Boxall`s career has been on a steady decline for a season or two now, surely there is no team left desperate enough to sign him now, especially now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 7 hours ago, dazzafl said: i think during the season with the top riders when they are riding multiple leagues in multiple countries that's fine but local riders in the National League that's perhaps a bit harsh going to their homes to do it. but for sure they should be at every track at every meeting testing riders this is a massive deterrent... well it should be I don't think Dean meant going to their actual home but tested at their home track. That's how I read it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 33 minutes ago, Gemini said: I don't think Dean meant going to their actual home but tested at their home track. That's how I read it anyway. No i meant at their home, nicki pedersen had them turn up at his house last month and I remember seeing hampel having them do it too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyretrax Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Do athlets not get tested at home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, THE DEAN MACHINE said: No i meant at their home, nicki pedersen had them turn up at his house last month and I remember seeing hampel having them do it too Really? I wouldn't have thought anyone could legally do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Gemini said: Really? I wouldn't have thought anyone could legally do that. I think it happens in other sports like cycling too, if you google uk anti doping it tells you about out of competition testing and I assume all other nations have the same things Edited August 10, 2018 by THE DEAN MACHINE 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Gemini said: Really? I wouldn't have thought anyone could legally do that. It's probably a condition of having a race licence, and although I doubt they can actually force you to take a test, you'll then be deemed to have refused one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve roberts Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Interesting article in a recent edition of 'Backtrack' when one-time SRA Secretary, Colin Gear, referred to the rising drug problem in speedway. He invited a representative of the Sports Council to attend an SRA AGM to talk about drugs in sport and speedway in particular. It was met with negativity by some of those in attendance but Hans Nielsen said "About time". Colin quotes that "Hans actually had words with an American star over it, telling him: 'If you're not taking drugs, you won't have anything to worry about'. Of all the world class riders around in my time, I found Hans one of the most supportive". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Speedway is "recognised" by Sport England who issue guidelines and the definitive list of banned substances. Each recognised sport has to have a testing regime and the Sport England principles enshrined in it's rules and regulations. The ACU/SCB take care of this but apart from Speedway's own testing regime Sport England testers can rock up at anytime, produce their ID and get on with it. An acquaintance of mine is an early retired Detective Sergeant and he spends 1 day/evening each week testing for Sport England, he has a defined geographical area and gets roughly 12 hours notice as to where he is going, what sport and how many competitors to test (he may be given the name/s of a suspect to be included). Agreeing to submit to a testing regime is a licensing condition and the SCB expanded this to all licensed officials 2 ish years ago so that non riders may be called upon to be tested for alcohol or illegal substances at random. I think we all know and my acquaintance confirms that most of the visits are as a result of "information received" or perceived behaviour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 Shame they weren’t at this years British final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Flag Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Jonny the spud said: Shame they weren’t at this years British final I'm presume you are hinting at drug infringements at the meeting, I wouldn't expect you to name names on a forum but would like to think you have notified the authorities of any information you have 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 13 hours ago, tyretrax said: Do athlets not get tested at home? Yes , as do Tennis players , they have to inform the authorities of their movements and make themselves available for testin , missing a certain number of tests will result in a ban 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff100 Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 I have seen a rider in the pits jumping up and down and looking as if he was enjoying himself and heard others say what is he on lol makes u think ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronScorpion Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/10/2018 at 3:37 PM, proud panther said: Whilst I agree with you, if they carried out tests that regular, there would be a lot of banned riders. What you are implying then is that more riders do drugs. Care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Connor Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 2 years sounds fair! i was worried he'd get something like 6 weeks. would have been a mockery. Now people will be assuming this was avoided for a recreational drug. who knows. But what if it wasn't. what if a rider was in a lot of pain and taking banned pain killers (hypothetical) to get him through the day doing his job paying his bills. Many of us have took strong pain killers when needed. Id definitely be more sympathetic then. I can also see why a rider would take uppers pre meeting in a heavy schedule. and downers after if they needed sleep too. it would be a vicious circle though. From a 9-5 perspective its all so simple but i bet when your living speedway and in pain with little sleep and hectic flight schedules it must be easy to stray from the allowed list. In some sports caffeine is a limited drug. meaning 2/3 energy drinks would class as sports enhancing. not all drug offences are black and white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbiter Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 He's rubbish anyway just a waste of space always has been. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) On 8/10/2018 at 7:36 PM, ancient mariner said: Perhaps a bit like Danny Bird who never paid his fine and therefore his ban has continued indefinitely. That said, has Boxall been fined? Shocking waste of talent Danny Bird was a lot more serious as I think he was taking amphetamines (If I remember correctly) which makes you more aggressive which then caused the altercation with Richie Hawkins who was riding for Workington at the time. Most likely I think Steve would've most likely had alcohol or THC (from cannabis) which of course is still a problem but THC can stay in your system for a while, but I don't know the details of the whole situation Plus Steve is also only in the National League so he isn't exactly doing this full time so I couldn't personally see him returning because he's also no spring chicken but then again neither are the likes of Paul Hurry and Tony Atkin Edited August 11, 2018 by Shaggy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Bloke Posted August 11, 2018 Report Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shaggy said: Danny Bird was a lot more serious as I think he was taking amphetamines (If I remember correctly) which makes you more aggressive which then caused the altercation with Richie Hawkins who was riding for Workington at the time. Most likely I think Steve would've most likely had alcohol or THC (from cannabis) which of course is still a problem but THC can stay in your system for a while, but I don't know the details of the whole situation Plus Steve is also only in the National League so he isn't exactly doing this full time so I couldn't personally see him returning because he's also no spring chicken but then again neither are the likes of Paul Hurry and Tony Atkin Not for most. If taken at night it keeps most up all night and wanting to be on the go. Most can't rest. Keeps you wide awake. Doubt if it would help a speedway rider on track...But in this dangerous sport, or any sport, driving etc, theres no excuse. Weed makes your reactions slower.To chilled if you like. Edited August 11, 2018 by Bald Bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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