BobC Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Steve Shovlar said: Absolutely disgraceful call off. I was leading the boos. How can one short shower cause a rainoff when in the previous race there was quite a bit off dust? There was zero attempt to do anything about sorting the trac, which to be honest needed no more than a quick grade! The tractor came out and at the same time it was announced, that with the referee, that conditions had got bad and both managers and captains agreed to abandon the meeting. No thought for the large crowd in attendance who had just been short changed, on the whim of riders who probably hadn’t even given a thought to those that had paid a chunk to watch. The ref, Dave Robinson, should have demanded a track grade, which would have sorted the track in five minutes, and stuck the 2 mins on. It was a thin shower line which passed over in less than ten minutes. Blue skies on the other side. But instead Robinson cowtowed to a few riders and the meeting was off. It’s like going to a football match and one team is 4-0 down after 75 mins and they say they don’t want to play anymore, so the ref blows full time. Totally unacceptable. The meeting itself was average fair. The track was underwatered and slick. Not as good as recently. Still some passing butmore gate and go than it has been. Can’t be bothered to write a meeting report as peed off with this abandonment. Pretty much agree with all that. The meeting got off to a very awkward start and got progressively worse. Presenter Nij started with REF presentations, then introduced the Leicester riders, BEFORE remembering a tribute to the Late Bob Dugard. Embarrassing to say the least. At least everyone in the stadium showed total respect to guy who has had such a major impact on our sport. An impeccable minutes silence, followed by a spontaneous standing ovation. As SS says, a very ordinary meeting, with one or two decent paases etc. Nothing out of the oridinary. Track was a little dusty and NEEDED a watering. I genuinely thought the track looked perfect after the rain, only needing a little grading. NO riders inspecting the track in detail. No track walk. Then the call off. Unreal. The crowd unsurprisingly aggrieved. I am sorry I dont accept the riders view about the slick inside being dangerous. Give it 5 or 10 minutes, with dirt levelled over it, I am sure it would have been ok. After all, our track has been in a far worse condition for most of the season anyway! Send 2 riders out from each team to test it, maybe Kurtz/Harris and Andersen/Nicholls. At least then the fans can see and perhaps understand a little more. Not doing anyone any favours with what happened and the way it happened. If this had been on TV or a Play off, I feel sure it would have continued. A very disgruntled and disillusioned fan, even today. I have to ask myself, why do I bother making a 200 mile round trip, then end up with this? Could have some serious repercussions, crowd wise. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 A complete joke to call that off, the track was better after the rain than before! Do Poole ever water the track during the meeting? I can't recall ever seeing them do it when I've been there. It needed more water last night as the dust was spoiling the viewing and the rain did it a favour. The most important people at a speedway meeting are the fans and they were robbed again last night. Whoever made the call last night should be held to account, completely wrong decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, BobC said: Pretty much agree with all that. The meeting got off to a very awkward start and got progressively worse. Presenter Nij started with REF presentations, then introduced the Leicester riders, BEFORE remembering a tribute to the Late Bob Dugard. Embarrassing to say the least. At least everyone in the stadium showed total respect to guy who has had such a major impact on our sport. An impeccable minutes silence, followed by a spontaneous standing ovation. As SS says, a very ordinary meeting, with one or two decent paases etc. Nothing out of the oridinary. Track was a little dusty and NEEDED a watering. I genuinely thought the track looked perfect after the rain, only needing a little grading. NO riders inspecting the track in detail. No track walk. Then the call off. Unreal. The crowd unsurprisingly aggrieved. I am sorry I dont accept the riders view about the slick inside being dangerous. Give it 5 or 10 minutes, with dirt levelled over it, I am sure it would have been ok. After all, our track has been in a far worse condition for most of the season anyway! Send 2 riders out from each team to test it, maybe Kurtz/Harris and Andersen/Nicholls. At least then the fans can see and perhaps understand a little more. Not doing anyone any favours with what happened and the way it happened. If this had been on TV or a Play off, I feel sure it would have continued. A very disgruntled and disillusioned fan, even today. I have to ask myself, why do I bother making a 200 mile round trip, then end up with this? Could have some serious repercussions, crowd wise. Spot on would the meeting have been called off if we were only on heat 9 doubtful shame on everybody concerned with the meeting ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 53 minutes ago, Stoke Potter said: A complete joke to call that off, the track was better after the rain than before! Do Poole ever water the track during the meeting? I can't recall ever seeing them do it when I've been there. It needed more water last night as the dust was spoiling the viewing and the rain did it a favour. The most important people at a speedway meeting are the fans and they were robbed again last night. Whoever made the call last night should be held to account, completely wrong decision. Try talking to Dave Robertson.... As for the dust, its been a dam site worse, clearly you are all watching a different meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, thecoombdog said: The call off would have saved Ford a few quid though wouldn't it. Nothing to refund to fans and much less to pay the riders. Do you think it would have been off after that shower if it had happened at heat 5? Obviously I wasn't there so its a genuine question. As i said, and clearly you wont have it. Matt has nothing to do with making those decisions. Its down to the riders Referee and the clerk of the course.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Shouldn't ford come out with a statement stating how disgusted he is with the riders and referee, as it's decisions like that..that will do damage to his business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoke Potter Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 18 minutes ago, Starman2006 said: Try talking to Dave Robertson.... As for the dust, its been a dam site worse, clearly you are all watching a different meeting. Why was I watching a different meeting? I don't see how the dust being worse on a previous occasion makes any difference. If the dust is affecting the fans viewing, which it was, then the track should be watered, end of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 No I'm not a fan that goes each week, I don't let myself get treated un fairly and then turn up again the week after and after and after, I'm not that much of a mug. I used to be but not any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 So is a genuine speedway fan someone that gets mugged off one week..then turns up the next regardless? Or is a genuine speedway fan someone that won't let that happen to them because it's adding extra nails to a sport they love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 And they will carry on doing it until they get a reality check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Starman2006 said: As i said, and clearly you wont have it. Matt has nothing to do with making those decisions. Its down to the riders Referee and the clerk of the course.. Would a shower like that after heat 5 have caused the meeting to be cancelled? Again this is a genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poole keith Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 if scott nicholls was the main instigator as is being suggested (i have no idea if this is true) for having the meeting abandoned,he could have reasoned that the way he was riding last night he wasnt going to lose much if any points money from the rest of the meeting!! alternatively he could have had an early appointment today with his tailor re a suitable shirt for sats gp lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SharpenRake Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) I wasn't there. I am a Glasgow fan so no doubt will be told go back to your page and don't interfere. BUT what is wrong with all you people? Poole fans are upset at what happened even those that never normally say anything against there team and yet they and promoter are still getting stick? The rules are clear only the losing team can ask for a track inspection (not Poole). The referee makes the final decision in consultation with both captains and the clerk of the course. So it must have been Leicester that asked the ref to call it of. If the ref agrees with the Leicester riders then its of and nothing the Poole side do or say will change things. Edited August 10, 2018 by SharpenRake 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Baldyman said: And they will carry on doing it until they get a reality check. But if too many fans stay away then clubs will get shut down, I'm afraid it's a lose lose situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, SharpenRake said: I wasn't there. I am a Glasgow fan so no doubt will be told go back to your page and don't interfere. BUT what is wrong with all you people? Poole fans are upset at what happened even those that never normally say anything against there team and yet they and promoter are still getting stick? The rules are clear only the losing team can ask for a track inspection (not Poole). The referee makes the final decision in consultation with both captains and the clerk of the course make the decision. So it must have been Leicester that asked the ref to call it of. If the ref agrees with the Leicester riders then its of and nothing the Poole side do or say will change things. Kind of odd as the losing team will always want it called off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lisa-colette said: But if too many fans stay away then clubs will get shut down, I'm afraid it's a lose lose situation. I agree, but it shouldn't be a reason to let them treat fans like fools. If you don't feel like you have been mugged off then that's fine though, we are all different. Edited August 10, 2018 by Baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, thecoombdog said: Would a shower like that after heat 5 have caused the meeting to be cancelled? Again this is a genuine question. No, it wouldn't and it would have been completed had this been on Monday with BT there. It drizzled for a few minutes, rained fairly gently for five minutes then petered out. The tractor came out, went around bend three/four and hey presto, the water was gone. Unfortunately half way through that two minute job, it was announced that the meeting was abandoned. Nobody went to look at the track. Everyone around me was surprised and pretty grumpy at such a poor decision. The track was far wetter before the meeting and also why bother with the interval when all in the grandstand could see the shower coming? I don't know who drove the decision, although handy financially that it came after the cut off, but with four heats remaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray c Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 It would be nice if poole management made a statement. For the simple fact there was a lot of disgruntled supporters not happy with the call off and i was one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LisaColette Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Interestingly no comments from Skidder yet! Poor Starman is left to defend this bad decision on his own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waytogo28 Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ray c said: a lot of disgruntled supporters not happy Sums up much of speedway today at a lot of tracks and not merely in this instance. Not that many ( any? ) promoters will offer an explanation of a situation. Perhaps only Redcar and the Isle of Wight Edited August 10, 2018 by waytogo28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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