Fromafar Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, sparks123 said: Rory wasn't as good as usual but the same happens on all tracks. He won the Open and top scored for his team in the celebration 4's at Edinburgh but only scored half a dozen points or so when Ipswich were there so why didn't he score more for his Ipswich team? Despite the fact Glasgow could still have got a draw with 5-1's in the remaining heats they used their number 8 (who I am glad they used) so that says more about the Glasgow team manager than it says about a guest rider. Riders like Schlien are well paid for going through the motions,miss the gate and don't bother much as they might make the gate in the next one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Welcome win for Berwick last night and surprising at the ease it was achieved as apart from Chris Harris the rest of the Glasgow team team were a major let down for them. Clearly its at reserve where Glasgow lost this, you can probably make an excuse for Jack Thomas at his stage of career but not Sarjeant in fact watching him last night I wonder why teams bother with him at all, very poor. Congratulations to Theo Pijper on his paid max, if only Berwick could find a point or two on their travels they could just about challenge for a play off spot, sadly I don`t see that happening so that leaves only two home meetings left though I hear that there could be one additional meeting at least in the form of an individual meeting for either junior riders ( Stars of tomorrow ) or more established riders ( Bordernaplis ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fromafar said: Riders like Schlien are well paid for going through the motions,miss the gate and don't bother much as they might make the gate in the next one. Seems to be the way sadly Don't remember the top boys of 15 years ago coming to Berwick and scoring 7 more like 16, 17. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, screm said: Clearly its at reserve where Glasgow lost this, you can probably make an excuse for Jack Thomas at his stage of career but not Sarjeant in fact watching him last night I wonder why teams bother with him at all, very poor. Yip, and we can hardly argue we didnt know what we were getting with Sarjeant at the start of the year. I think there was an element of trying to recreate the past when he got his average above 4 with us in 2015 and was decent at home. However you could have worked out pretty soon into the season that wasnt going to happen and on a starting average of 3.33 or whatever it was, it is almost impossible to find a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, screm said: Welcome win for Berwick last night and surprising at the ease it was achieved as apart from Chris Harris the rest of the Glasgow team team were a major let down for them. Clearly its at reserve where Glasgow lost this, you can probably make an excuse for Jack Thomas at his stage of career but not Sarjeant in fact watching him last night I wonder why teams bother with him at all, very poor. Congratulations to Theo Pijper on his paid max, if only Berwick could find a point or two on their travels they could just about challenge for a play off spot, sadly I don`t see that happening so that leaves only two home meetings left though I hear that there could be one additional meeting at least in the form of an individual meeting for either junior riders ( Stars of tomorrow ) or more established riders ( Bordernaplis ). Not a Sarjeant fan but his 3 race wins on Friday cost Berwick some away Points,its a bit like watching Dany G at Edin and Newcastle . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 1 hour ago, MD said: Yip, and we can hardly argue we didnt know what we were getting with Sarjeant at the start of the year. I think there was an element of trying to recreate the past when he got his average above 4 with us in 2015 and was decent at home. However you could have worked out pretty soon into the season that wasnt going to happen and on a starting average of 3.33 or whatever it was, it is almost impossible to find a replacement. good ole sarj . why didnt Glasgow take notice of his scores from the previous season @ worky ? he said he was going to double his average in 2018. well double of 0 is just that, 0 . time to find a day job ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concessionscol Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 lollol money cant buy you love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazc Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 38 minutes ago, concessionscol said: lollol money cant buy you love It can on plenty of fish.com. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: Riders like Schlien are well paid for going through the motions,miss the gate and don't bother much as they might make the gate in the next one. Now thats a comment I accept as a valid opinion as opposed to one claiming he cost Glasgow the match It is a trait that appears more common now than ever before although Im sure it has always happened to an extent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concessionscol Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 26 minutes ago, Gazc said: It can on plenty of fish.com. do they bit on there to mmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Got to be honest I expected a closer meeting but heat 9 was worth the admission alone, great to see Jye controlling the race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 4 hours ago, Fromafar said: Not a Sarjeant fan but his 3 race wins on Friday cost Berwick some away Points,its a bit like watching Dany G at Edin and Newcastle . Giving the career he has had Sarjeant should be a trump card at reserve for Glasgow, signed on a low average and still on a low average would suggest he has had a lot more meetings like last night rather than Friday night. He will end the season on a low average oddly making him an attractive signing for someone next season, so his underachievement for Glasgow will give him employment for someone else, only in speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Just now, screm said: Giving the career he has had Sarjeant should be a trump card at reserve for Glasgow, signed on a low average and still on a low average would suggest he has had a lot more meetings like last night rather than Friday night. He will end the season on a low average oddly making him an attractive signing for someone next season, so his underachievement for Glasgow will give him employment for someone else, only in speedway. That's the problem with averages,they keep lowering them making riders like Sarjeant popular,averages are not the way forward IMO.Nothing will change though.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, Fromafar said: That's the problem with averages,they keep lowering them making riders like Sarjeant popular,averages are not the way forward IMO.Nothing will change though.! I much prefer the rolling averages though that are worked out over a longer period rather than the month to month ones that are open to abuse as we have seen in the past. Take your point with averages though, but I don`t see another system that is at least as good/bad as we have now. Lowering the team averages will only lead to the top riders losing out, making riders like Sarjeant etc even more attractive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 18 minutes ago, screm said: Giving the career he has had Sarjeant should be a trump card at reserve for Glasgow, signed on a low average and still on a low average would suggest he has had a lot more meetings like last night rather than Friday night. He will end the season on a low average oddly making him an attractive signing for someone next season, so his underachievement for Glasgow will give him employment for someone else, only in speedway. After this season Sarjeant is unemployable in speedway. He's been round at least half the Championship clubs and used up all his chances IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 There are no easy solutions for the problems the sport is facing,but a good start would be sorting out the entertainment value by giving the riders a decent track to race on.No excuses ,like Batchelor says they just come up with excuses regarding this matter.The Team at Berwick have lived up to expections for most fans this season but the entertainment factor has dropped IMO .At least we won't have to suffer the cold dark nights this season.Saving on Electricity too,that will be a bonus for the Promotion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Fromafar said: There are no easy solutions for the problems the sport is facing,but a good start would be sorting out the entertainment value by giving the riders a decent track to race on.No excuses ,like Batchelor says they just come up with excuses regarding this matter.The Team at Berwick have lived up to expections for most fans this season but the entertainment factor has dropped IMO .At least we won't have to suffer the cold dark nights this season.Saving on Electricity too,that will be a bonus for the Promotion. I’ve been to every meeting at Berwick as a neutral this year and I’ve gotta say the entertainment has been poor to say the least. Most of the excitement has been when Chris Harris has missed the gate. When one of the highlights was Buddy the Bandit doing wheelies on a mini bike you know it’s been dull. Apparently 30 tons of shale was deposited on the track this week, but you’d be hard pressed to notice the difference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, Fromafar said: There are no easy solutions for the problems the sport is facing,but a good start would be sorting out the entertainment value by giving the riders a decent track to race on.No excuses ,like Batchelor says they just come up with excuses regarding this matter.The Team at Berwick have lived up to expections for most fans this season but the entertainment factor has dropped IMO .At least we won't have to suffer the cold dark nights this season.Saving on Electricity too,that will be a bonus for the Promotion. Spot on, can`t argue with any of that. As Shadders points out there was new material on the track with no noticeable difference in the actual racing, apart from the races that featured Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthegearbutnaeidea Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 Would just like to say a thank you to Nick Morris, he helped Jye 10 fold last year when partnered together with him getting his first home win thanks to Nick team riding him brilliantly, he, along with the Edinburgh promotion, have given us a terrific battler who is not afraid to give it out and FIGHT for his points, something that every fan wants to see for their team, it is so good to see and he has been a pleasure to watch this past year and a half to see how much he has progressed after being disgustingly treated by the Edinburgh promotion. Now he’s dominating Chris Harris and controlling the race to keep him behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 The collection that was held last night for minibike rider Mickey Bennett raised the magnificent sum of £1141. Details can be found on the club's Facebook page. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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